Posted on 07/01/2013 8:08:44 PM PDT by SatinDoll
Statement from Edward Snowden in Moscow
One week ago I left Hong Kong after it became clear that my freedom and safety were under threat for revealing the truth. My continued liberty has been owed to the efforts of friends new and old, family, and others who I have never met and probably never will. I trusted them with my life and they returned that trust with a faith in me for which I will always be thankful.
On Thursday, President Obama declared before the world that he would not permit any diplomatic "wheeling and dealing" over my case. Yet now it is being reported that after promising not to do so, the President ordered his Vice President to pressure the leaders of nations from which I have requested protection to deny my asylum petitions.
This kind of deception from a world leader is not justice, and neither is the extralegal penalty of exile. These are the old, bad tools of political aggression. Their purpose is to frighten, not me, but those who would come after me.
For decades the United States of America have been one of the strongest defenders of the human right to seek asylum. Sadly, this right, laid out and voted for by the U.S. in Article 14 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, is now being rejected by the current government of my country. The Obama administration has now adopted the strategy of using citizenship as a weapon. Although I am convicted of nothing, it has unilaterally revoked my passport, leaving me a stateless person. Without any judicial order, the administration now seeks to stop me exercising a basic right. A right that belongs to everybody. The right to seek asylum.
In the end the Obama administration is not afraid of whistleblowers like me, Bradley Manning or Thomas Drake. We are stateless, imprisoned, or powerless. No, the Obama administration is afraid of you. It is afraid of an informed, angry public demanding the constitutional government it was promised — and it should be.
I am unbowed in my convictions and impressed at the efforts taken by so many.
Edward Joseph Snowden
Monday 1st July 2013
What did the South do to start the War?
This would be the same judiciary that just said that your 5th Amendment protections aren't in effect until invoked? The same judiciary that recently said screw you
to the CA Supreme court and the people of that state and the general citizenry by declaring that they don't have standing? (And in the CA Supreme Court's case that they could not certify standing.) The same judiciary that ignores the 6th amendment ant runs a rubber-stamp operation to violate the 4th and 5th amendments? That judiciary?
“Try being an American that believes in the Constitution and the principals [sic] espoused by the Founders”
Note: the correct term is “principles”, and proper punctuation, like using a period at the end of sentences, would better support your theses.
Let’s start with the Declaration of Independence. “...all Men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness...”
Southerners committed a heinous crime against God - they enslaved a people because of the color of their skin and used those slaves to enable the acquisition of fabulous wealth by a tiny minority. It was all about MONEY.
Humans are born free. That is their natural state. Violate one of God’s natural laws, the penalty is very dear.
Trying to justify the enslavement of another race by labeling people as property, like livestock, was evil. Period.
Abe Lincoln kept the Union together. He went up against the European financiers who desired control the economy of the U.S. (Typical elites, they are still at it today!)
It was European Banks that wanted the war so as to divide the nation and recover former colonies. Britain had troops massed on our northern border during the 1860s; France was intent of taking complete control of Mexico so as to seize former Spanish lands. Lincoln succeeded in keeping the Union together despite the cupidity and greed of white southerners, and died by an assassin working for those powerful elites in Europe.
“They didn’t put a right to vote in there for a REASON”
“That reason would be women, those under 21, and simpletons cant be trusted with the franchise”
“That’s how you get part black communist faggot exchange students from Indonesia as POTUS”
“Go take your identity politics to a place where they are appreciated genius like DU”
I’m a lifelong Conservative, a registered Republican since 1971, and you need to get better educated. Going through life with misspellings, poor punctuation, and a bigoted attitude is no way to successfully lecture about the U.S.Constitution.
I held my nose for McCain, but promised myself I'd not do it again. I didn't.
And you know what? I'm happy about it because I don't have a guilty conscience for voting for a Socialist.
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All that said, do you think the NSA took that oath as seriously as the Navy did then? How about now?
I said that, for a price, there was never privacy. Back to the 30s, if you hired a PI and paid him well enough, you could have anyone's telephone conversations, IRS filings, credit reports, physical movements, etc. The law was honored in the breach, but most people believed, erroneously, that they had privacy. Today the government tells us there is a sort of Chinese Wall where only foreign communication is collected. This too is honored in the breach. However, due to Snowden, the average person is now aware that the rules are not being followed. 9/11 is used as a pretext to spy on everyone, not just terrorists. E-Verify will be used to spy on everyone, not just undocumented Democrats. The jig is up. That is a good thing. There is an outcry from the 20-something Twitterers on up. The rules will now likely be tightened. The Democrats must be held accountable next year.
And there's this article:
Bolivian presidential plane forced to land in Austria over suspicions Snowden on board
When I first started collecting and translating SIGINT, Admiral Bobby Ray Inman held important positions in the intelligence operations of the U.S.A. - both the military and at CIA. He retired in the 1980s.
Just this past winter I was reviewing information on the Council of Foreign Relations and had a shock. On a graphic detailing interrelationships of various members, there was Bobby Ray Inman as a part of CFR, and not too far away was George Soros.
I’m still trying to figure out what to make of it.
Something I am noticing about the connectivity between industries, organizations, and government: sometimes what first seems innocuous later develops into a relationship that the people involved may not be aware is compromising. In Admiral Inman’s case, I find that hard to believe.
I like to think that most people have good intentions and are later subverted, or come to discover they’re in an impossible situation.
Back in the 1980s, the Cold War was still in existence. Intelligence was important but Americans still had their rights, by and large. That is not true now.
I don’t know too many details, but I suspect it happened during G.W.Bush’s years in the White House in response to the Al Qaida attack on 9-11. It is typical of a crisis, that as it develops the government’s response it to pull-in to itself more controls on intelligence activities. Thus monitoring the activities of certain individuals and related groups would result. I believe they took warrants to a higher level of intrusive intel gathering in the mid-2000 decade.
One thing I’m sure of - BHO2 is working for a cabal of Globalists, as was Mitt Romney. The difference between the two is only a matter of degrees but the goal is the same: One World Government.
I completely agree, which is why I voted for an American (Gary Johnson) rather than vote for a socialist whose allegiance isn't America.
One more time, in the 20s 30, 40s 50s and 60s 70s, etc was the government monitoring and recording all phone calls from all innocent law abiding Americans for the intention of building profiles and backgrounds on Americans?
They had the means of doing so..
Since we never had any privacy, was government doing this back then to all Americans? Was government reading everyone's mail back then?
Why are you evading the questions?
Am aware of that...interesting how many wouldn’t let the plane land...and said France may not have let it even fly over their air-space.
Personally I hope he’s still in Russia....but if not... the guy is still a thief on the run just like any other criminal.
As some have said...Run Waldo Run!
They had the means of doing so..
Only in the past few years has technology become available to store information on all communications, even in metadata form. In a decade or so, it will become practical to store all telephone communication in digital form.
So, in answer to your question, no, the government was not "recording all phone calls", but only because it lacked the technology to do so.
However, there still has never been what we like to think of as privacy. If you were of enough interest to government or powerful private interests, you never had privacy, unless you matched their efforts with counter measures of equal or greater cost.
Yep that judiciary. You can be an American and man up and support this country or be a F***ing fool and support the enemies and traitors of this country.
But please stop calling yourself an American..pretend to be a conservative if you must but aiding and abetting the enemies of this great land disqualifies all protecting this traitor from the proud American heritage that real Patriots, not fools living in their mothers basement, fought and died for. Who incidentally had much more courage and personal worth than you idiots supporting Snowden could ever comprehend. Americans since its inception have been trusted to keep their word when they entered the service of this country, they swore a solemn oath to protect this great land and a part of that oath was the grown up realization that some things must be secret. I have no doubt our military will continue to fight and die for your idiots right to be idiots but it gets old..more importantly it shows the enemy within is not Obama,the Dims, the Christians, the Tea Party but F***ing Libertarian fools who view the Constitution as a suicide pact.
No. That is wrong. My government and my country are two very different things.
The Government has betrayed the country; they have betrayed the people, they have engaged in activities that are utterly unlawful, while wrapping themselves in rules, regulations, and lesser 'laws' to justify it — but this fact remains: they are guilty of treason.
For in acting in the lawless manner they have destroyed the credibility of the government (and therefore legitimacy, thereby aiding all enemies of the States) and, it may be argued, that their assault on the 1st, 4th, 5th, 6th, 9th, and 10th amendments is the waging of war on the Several States — fo were it done to any other nation that nation would be at war with them.
But please stop calling yourself an American..
I put in my time; moreover, my oath is to the Constitution: not the president, not the congress, and not the Supreme Court.
pretend to be a conservative if you must but aiding and abetting the enemies of this great land disqualifies all protecting this traitor from the proud American heritage that real Patriots, not fools living in their mothers basement, fought and died for.
Who said I'm living in a basement? Or with my parents? Or that I've not fought?
For your information, I was in the Army for nine years, deployed overseas once; who are you to call me unpatriotic, much less treasonous?
Who incidentally had much more courage and personal worth than you idiots supporting Snowden could ever comprehend.
Really. I've laid out my service to the country: what have you done?
Americans since its inception have been trusted to keep their word when they entered the service of this country, they swore a solemn oath to protect this great land and a part of that oath was the grown up realization that some things must be secret.
VIOLATING THE CONSTITUTION IS NOT SOMETHING TO KEEP SECRET OVER.
It is a felony, and in an agency like the NSA it's additionally another felony.
So, is a promise to violate the constitution binding? Is it?
I have no doubt our military will continue to fight and die for your idiots right to be idiots but it gets old..more importantly it shows the enemy within is not Obama,the Dims, the Christians, the Tea Party but F***ing Libertarian fools who view the Constitution as a suicide pact.
Who said it's a suicide pact? But it obviously isn't because, apparently, it means nothing — thanks to worshipers of the state like you.
We should all be made aware that we have never really had privacy.
So, in answer to your question, no, the government was not “recording all phone calls”, but only because it lacked the technology to do so.
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Then how do you explain your first statement?
Quoting your home page- “My generation is one that will be remembered as never growing up and incapable of leading.” Hey, live in your white bread box of ticki-tacki, and leave the restoration of Our Republic to the men, you never have known.
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