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To: National Review

The House of Representatives says they will not entertain the Senate plan, they will offer their own plan.

Another example of Republicans differing from Democrats only in implementation details, not agenda.


4 posted on 06/28/2013 7:45:45 AM PDT by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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Totally untrue. The GOP isn’t monolithic and most members are on our side.


8 posted on 06/28/2013 7:59:10 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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Massive border security, reform of the visa process, and (in my opinion) some sort of allowance for those already here to get a work visa without criminal penalty is fine. The rest is crap.

We do need some reforms. The system is outdated, it is not set up to reflect our need for skilled workers in the tech industries, nor does it reflect our current technology capabilities. We do not need special pathways to citizenship, nor do we need all the pork and special favors.

The question is how does the House pass something that doesn’t get twisted into the Senate bill once it is in conference. I just don’t know how that can be done, because the public pressure would be huge after the House passes their bill.


9 posted on 06/28/2013 7:59:17 AM PDT by ilgipper (Obama is proving that very bad ideas can be wrapped up in pretty words)
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Conservatives must start on the 2014 cleaning of the sewer ASAP.


12 posted on 06/28/2013 8:20:52 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Ray76
Another example of Republicans differing from Democrats only in implementation details, not agenda.

Here's an opportunity however, to demonstrate that is not the case.

Some suggestions: The House bill should not exceed 12 pages instead of 1200 pages - outline the hard requirements of securing the border first, then, the path to citizenship in the future (reversing the tables on amnesty first/security second) - reiterate enforcement of existing laws rather than creating new ones and - remove funding for Obamacare and move the funds to support this bill.

Just common sense ideas that plain folks can understand

13 posted on 06/28/2013 8:22:49 AM PDT by capydick (''Life's tough.......it's even tougher if you're stupid.'')
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To: Ray76
The House of Representatives says they will not entertain the Senate plan, they will offer their own plan.

Bah, the GOP has been doing this for decades, with the exception of the 80s. They have been trying since the 1930s to out-democrat the democrats and failing miserably at it. Here is FDR mocking the GOP about it in 1936:

"Let me warn you, and let me warn the nation, against the smooth evasion that says 'Of course we believe these things. We believe in social security. We believe in work for the unemployed. We believe in saving homes. Cross our hearts and hope to die. (laughter and applause)

'We believe in all these things.

But we do not like the way that the present administration is doing them. Just turn them over to us. (laughter and applause)

We will do all of them, we will do more of them, we will do them better and, most important of all, the doing of them will not cost anybody anything'"

FDR won that election and two more after it. Then Truman won a third and if Ike wasn't a huge war hero the dems probably would have gone on winning elections. This GOP strategy of accepting democrat premises and policies but promising to implement them in a more efficient way has never worked. It's why as a conservative I refuse to be a republican.

17 posted on 06/28/2013 9:01:10 AM PDT by pepsi_junkie (Who is John Galt?)
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