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1 posted on 06/26/2013 10:01:41 AM PDT by ShadowAce
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2 posted on 06/26/2013 10:02:03 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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virtual associations as "communities"

Someday it will be the definition of "citizenship."

you read it here first.

3 posted on 06/26/2013 10:05:38 AM PDT by schm0e ("we are in the midst of a coup.")
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Open source is communism in an application. I can count on one hand the open source projects that are worth anything, the rest are pos. I vehemently oppose any open source stuff embedded into our applications.


4 posted on 06/26/2013 10:19:50 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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The idea of open source was originally as a thumb of the nose at software makers like Microsoft who don’t release their source code. It made the community responsible for the content of the distributions.

If someone takes OSS, modifies it to their needs, and makes money off of it, they don’t owe the originators of that OSS any money. AS a matter of fact, that’s explicit in the GNU license agreement.

The OSS people are not anti-capitalist, they’re pro-responsibility. I trust open source more that I do MS or Apple.

The people responsible for maintaining and monitoring the code are the original whistleblowers if someone tries to deploy a distro with malicious code.


5 posted on 06/26/2013 10:20:31 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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The correct term for them is “users”. Thinking that everybody using your product should “contribute” to it’s development in someway is one of the things that tells the laymen that make up the majority of your target audience they aren’t actually in your target audience.


11 posted on 06/26/2013 10:27:00 AM PDT by discostu (Go do the voodoo that you do so well.)
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So in the end, it's all about freeloaders, but from the perspective that you want as many as possible. That means you're "doing it right" in developing a broad base of users by making their experience easy, making it easy for them to contribute, and ultimately to create an ecosystem that continues to sustain itself. Freeloaders are essential to the growth and success of every FOSS project.

One of the things I see missing is the potential of hundreds of thousands of people with the potential, due to experience and ability to become contributors, but somewhat removed from the "computer science" field.

Aside from formal colleges and paid schools, in addition to interest, what is missing is some sort of on line beginners, intermediate and advanced training, with real world problems to solve as part of the process.
I know I am interested, as well as many others.

Prior knowledge of astronomy, mathematics and engineering can't hurt. I know the pool is out here. For these people, sharing is never a problem.

13 posted on 06/26/2013 10:47:06 AM PDT by publius911 (Look for the Union label, then buy something else.)
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It’s an interesting topic. I won’t get into the urinating contest except to say that anyone in the industry knows how much open source software is in use, and I could care less what they think about it.

The point of the article was the ethics of using FOSS without contributing to development, or in what ways they contribute. For example, I have developed hardware that runs with open source software to create a complete solution. The way I see it, I am helping expand awareness and pulling more potential developers in, and thus this form of contribution benefits the software developers as well. However, I get paid for the hardware, while their software is given away for free...and it’s fair to question the equity of that.

Another aspect of contributing, are users who provide suggesting, feature lists, bug reports, etc. considered as “contributing” or merely whining and complaining? Most for-profit companies treasure this “voice of the customer” input highly, but some FOSS developers consider it more of the latter, and instead pursue their own interests and development plans.

It’s an interesting model, and putting altruism and ego aside, there’s got to be a way to reward those who “make” by those who “use”. At the least, a balance should be struck between the demands of users and the desires of developers.


24 posted on 06/26/2013 11:19:58 AM PDT by bigbob
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