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To: Colofornian

Uhh, I think you are off most of a century about when “the South ... “abandoned” their teachings about black ... inferiority.” They didn’t even begin to turn around on this till the 60s, and I suspect in many people’s hearts it wasn’t much before 1978, if then.

And the South never did “abandon” its teachings about slavery. The end of slavery was imposed on them by military force, and they spent pretty much the next century doing their best to maintain blacks in a condition as close to slavery as they were allowed to. Unless I’m gravely mistaken, there was a remarkable dearth of white southern churches who criticized these unChristian and unAmerican activities.

And, unfortunately, I think you will find that equal treatment of blacks was not a top issue for most American conservatives before the 70s, either.

IMO this was the greatest single failure of American conservatism, since insistence on equal rights can indeed be derived from impeccably conservative roots. The “civil rights era” was one in which most American conservatives were indifferent or opposed, whereas American liberals and leftists led the fight.

This was the greatest (and just about the only) issue in American history in which liberals/leftists/progressives were morally right and most conservatives were opposed or indifferent. This has given liberalism enormous moral capital which they still exploit successfully today. Which is why everything has to be turned into “the civil rights issue of our time.” It’s the only card they have.


92 posted on 06/09/2013 9:15:52 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan
Uhh, I think you are off most of a century about when “the South ... “abandoned” their teachings about black ... inferiority.” They didn’t even begin to turn around on this till the 60s, and I suspect in many people’s hearts it wasn’t much before 1978, if then.

Sherman, that's what I said...that it took the South over a century to abandon such teachings! (Sheesh!) Here's what I said in post #89: "Like how the South in the late 19th century "abandoned" their teachings about black slavehood & inferiority. How long, Sherm, did that REALLY TAKE take to shake out? How many generations? Something rooted so deep took over a century, Sherm."

Give me a break. Please read my words & don't distort them!

Could you not see that "abandoned" is in quotations? Did I then not follow up with how long that REALLY took to shake out? That it took multiple generations?

94 posted on 06/09/2013 9:21:38 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Sherman Logan
And the South never did “abandon” its teachings about slavery.

Well, if the South "never did 'abandon'" its beliefs "about slavery," that would mean you think the South STILL believes it now!!! Utter ludicrous comment!

96 posted on 06/09/2013 9:23:04 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Sherman Logan
This was the greatest (and just about the only) issue in American history in which liberals/leftists/progressives were morally right and most conservatives were opposed or indifferent

More incomplete historical ignorance.

Even this PBS show -- a station that caters to liberals/leftists/progressives -- had the historical prowess to realize the great impact that CHRISTIAN conservatives had within the abolitionist movement of the 19th century in the 1830s thru 1860s:

See: The Abolitionists to update your lopsided, incomplete historical vantage point on this.

99 posted on 06/09/2013 9:30:03 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Sherman Logan
The end of slavery was imposed on them by military force,

Whereas, for MORMONism...

The end of POLYGAMY was imposed on it by the threat of military force,

147 posted on 06/09/2013 4:22:09 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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