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To: Kevmo
Forbes.com renews attention to widely disparaged “low-energy nuclear reactions”

It's widely disparaged by those who don't want nuclear power of ANY sort, either for environmental reasons, or because they're afraid of nuclear power, and don't understand how the LENR process works. Or by folks who are just plain skeptical, because of the experience with Pons and Fleishmann, though, in their defense, they TOLD the press it wasn't ready, but their employer forced them to demonstrate it anyway. That scared people off the technology for years, simply because of the media denigration of 'cold fusion'.

I'm willing to cut the LENR folks some slack; it took a while to get to the point where fission reactors were safe and useful for the general public, even though they knew how the science and the process worked.

If private groups or individuals want to invest in this technology, that's terrific. If those who put their money at risk make a bundle off the results, even better!

53 posted on 06/01/2013 10:00:48 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: SuziQ
It's widely disparaged by those who don't want nuclear power of ANY sort, either for environmental reasons, or because they're afraid of nuclear power, and don't understand how the LENR process works. ***Well, at this point, no one understands how the LENR process works. Of course, no one understands how superconductivity works, either. But that doesn't stop scientists from investigating it. Both fields are in the area of Condensed Matter Physics. But one field has stigma & difficulty attaining the effect while the other field is free of those 2 hindrances. http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg81615.html [Vo]:More delusional scientists, and over 60,000 publications! Mark Iverson Tue, 28 May 2013 17:48:20 -0700 "There have been more than 60,000 papers published on high-temperature superconductive material since its discovery in 1986," said Jak Chakhalian, professor of physics at the University of Arkansas. "Unfortunately, as of today we have *zero theoretical understanding* of the mechanism behind this enigmatic phenomenon. In my mind, the high-temperature superconductivity is the most important unsolved mystery of condensed matter physics." After over 60000 published papers, way more than LENR, and as the expert himself says, "we have zero theoretical understanding of the mechanism." Obviously they don't know how to make simple measurements, and must be engaged in a massive instance of self-delusion/group-think, or the grandest conspiracy to maintain their funding. Makes LENR look like small potatoes. -Mark Iverson
54 posted on 06/01/2013 10:11:32 AM PDT by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: SuziQ
It's widely disparaged by those who don't want nuclear power of ANY sort, either for environmental reasons, or because they're afraid of nuclear power, and don't understand how the LENR process works.
***Well, at this point, no one understands how the LENR process works. Of course, no one understands how superconductivity works, either. But that doesn't stop scientists from investigating it. Both fields are in the area of Condensed Matter Physics. But one field has stigma & difficulty attaining the effect while the other field is free of those 2 hindrances.

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[Vo]:More delusional scientists, and over 60,000 publications!

Mark Iverson Tue, 28 May 2013 17:48:20 -0700

"There have been more than 60,000 papers published on high-temperature
superconductive material since its discovery in 1986," said Jak Chakhalian,
professor of physics at the University of Arkansas. "Unfortunately, as of
today we have *zero theoretical understanding* of the mechanism behind this
enigmatic phenomenon. In my mind, the high-temperature superconductivity is
the most important unsolved mystery of condensed matter physics."


After over 60000 published papers, way more than LENR, and as the expert
himself says,

"we have zero theoretical understanding of the mechanism."







Obviously they don't know how to make simple measurements, and must be
engaged in a massive instance of self-delusion/group-think, or the grandest
conspiracy to maintain their funding.



Makes LENR look like small potatoes.







-Mark Iverson



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55 posted on 06/01/2013 10:14:31 AM PDT by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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