A thermometer demonstrates nothing in a world where exothermic processes abound.
***You’re displaying tremendous ignorance here. Let’s say a scientist measures the thermometer of a scaled device and it turns out to be 30 degC. Then he measures a very similar device and it turns out to be 300degC. Is the 2nd device 10X hotter than the first device? It’s a very, very straightforward answer, yet there are so many freepers inhabiting these threads who don’t seem to understand it.
The fact that Rossi won’t allow anyone but himself to actually see the “working parts” of his device
***It is black box testing. Why is that so hard to understand? Rossi is protecting his trade secret. The Wright brothers never submitted their device to demo until they had an agreement that once it was revealed, then they would get paid for selling airplanes. Freepers like you would have been calling the Wright brothers scam artists. It’s sickening.
or do any kind of meaningful analysis that would support his claim is a huge red flag.
***Once again. Try to get an idea of what black box testing is all about.
It’s also highly suspicious that he won’t actually disconnect his device from a power source while it’s supposedly running in self-sustaining mode.
***He has in the past, and this time around he wasn’t even present during the testing. So where do you get this idea?
And so on and so forth; it does not take a rocket scientist to pick out a scam here.
***It does appear that it takes someone with a very active imagination to invent one, however. You seem to have a very high opinion of Rossi — for your theory to be true he would need to be the greatest magician and scam artist in history. For mine to be true, he would only need to be a mediocre demonstrator.
As I’ve said before, and will continue to say, if there were anything scientific going on, I’d be happy to discuss it.
***Very highly doubtful.
Your repeated attempts to call this scam “science” don’t make it so.
***If it is a scam, then prove it. Send Rossi to jail. What Rossi is engaging in is engineering, and as a courtesy he sent one of his units to some scientists as long as they don’t steal his industrial secret. Science is trailing engineering at this point.
And, despite Intrade’s recently being shut down (for irregularities, go figure!), I am still highly suspicious of your claims to be investing in this scam.
***And now I am highly suspicious of your claims because you have such a high opinion of Rossi. Maybe it’s a conspiracy with those 7 scientists and those 14,700 replications which took place before Rossi even came onto the scene! Widest conspiracy theory in history. Good luck with that.
Ah, are you being purposefully obtuse here? So what, if Rossi monitors his black box with the most sensitive thermometers in the world. It's still a black box. He still won't allow any independent examination of the black box. Exothermic processes are so ubiquitous that merely demonstrating an increase in heat means nothing. With no effort at all, I can think of any number of ways to generate heat. I would be absolutely dumbfounded if you were to claim that the *only* way in which heat can be generated is through cold fusion. The simplest explanation here is that Rossi rigged the circuit so that the meters show zero when it really has current running through it, and, inside the black box, the current was running through a resistor, generating heat.
The fact that Rossi won’t allow anyone but himself to actually see the “working parts” of his device
***It is black box testing. Why is that so hard to understand? Rossi is protecting his trade secret. The Wright brothers never submitted their device to demo until they had an agreement that once it was revealed, then they would get paid for selling airplanes. Freepers like you would have been calling the Wright brothers scam artists. It’s sickening.
Seriously, do you think I was born yesterday? There are ways to protect trade secrets--oh, but there must be real trade secrets to protect.
Your analogy to the Wright brothers falls flat for a number of reasons. First and foremost, the Wright brothers were not inviting people to come see their flying machine and then showing it to them on the ground at point A, and again at ground point B, but not letting them see anything in between while telling them that it flew. They actually showed their machines to people. People took pictures of the machines in the air. The Wright brothers also did not claim that flight violates physical law, or that they somehow found a loophole in physics. They obtained patents along the way, did a whole lot of experimentation, and published their results in journals. While Rossi claims all the secrecy is needed to supposedly protect trade secrets, legitimate companies seem to protect trade secrets all the time using the legal mechanisms that exist for that exact purpose.
or do any kind of meaningful analysis that would support his claim is a huge red flag.
***Once again. Try to get an idea of what black box testing is all about.
Oh, I know perfectly well what it's about. It's about hiding the fact that there is no magical process going on inside the black box. A sufficient amount of showmanship effectively directs people's attention away from that little complication.
It’s also highly suspicious that he won’t actually disconnect his device from a power source while it’s supposedly running in self-sustaining mode.
***He has in the past, and this time around he wasn’t even present during the testing. So where do you get this idea?
From this excerpt from an article about it: The setup included the system being fed by: “... a TRIAC power regulator device which interrupted each phase periodically, in order to modulate power input with an industrial trade secret waveform.” (Emphasis added) Not hard to figure this out--that device fed power into the black box the whole time. It is also significant that the people who *were* around for the testing are the exact same people who have been participating in the scam from the start. There still has been no independent test, nor will there be.
And, despite Intrade’s recently being shut down (for irregularities, go figure!), I am still highly suspicious of your claims to be investing in this scam.
***And now I am highly suspicious of your claims because you have such a high opinion of Rossi. Maybe it’s a conspiracy with those 7 scientists and those 14,700 replications which took place before Rossi even came onto the scene! Widest conspiracy theory in history. Good luck with that.
Oh, all of those replications, all published in the form of abstracts presented at conferences meant to highlight pseudophysics. Oh, I am so convinced now! With little effort, I can find thousands of mentions of paranormal or psychic research on Google--there are several societies and journals dedicated to it, in fact. Does that mean paranormal activity is real, too? Should I start believing in telepathy and poltergeists now?