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To: Kevmo
Everything about Andrea Rossi screams, “Con man!”

***So when these 7 scientists were tasked with reading multimeters and thermometers attached to his box, don’t you think they triple-checked their readings before publishing them? Or are they part of your ever-widening conspiracy that includes 14,700 times the effect was replicated even prior to Rossi showing up? If you were really here to further science, you would honestly and genuinely address these things.

The con man sets up his "demonstration" in such a way as to hoodwink the non-scientists he's trying to scam. You can find schematics easily enough to make a live circuit that nonetheless reads zero on the meters. A thermometer demonstrates nothing in a world where exothermic processes abound. The fact that Rossi won't allow anyone but himself to actually see the "working parts" of his device or do any kind of meaningful analysis that would support his claim is a huge red flag. It's also highly suspicious that he won't actually disconnect his device from a power source while it's supposedly running in self-sustaining mode. And so on and so forth; it does not take a rocket scientist to pick out a scam here.

As I've said before, and will continue to say, if there were anything scientific going on, I'd be happy to discuss it. Your repeated attempts to call this scam "science" don't make it so. And, despite Intrade's recently being shut down (for irregularities, go figure!), I am still highly suspicious of your claims to be investing in this scam.

47 posted on 05/31/2013 4:27:15 PM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: exDemMom

The con man sets up his “demonstration” in such a way as to hoodwink the non-scientists he’s trying to scam. You can find schematics easily enough to make a live circuit that nonetheless reads zero on the meters.
***Discussed and dealt with on several Vortex threads. Basically, such a thing was accounted for.

http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex- href=”mailto:l@eskimo.com”>l@eskimo.com/msg81540.html

http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex- href=”mailto:l@eskimo.com”>l@eskimo.com/msg81470.html

http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex- href=”mailto:l@eskimo.com”>l@eskimo.com/msg81306.html

http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex- href=”mailto:l@eskimo.com”>l@eskimo.com/msg81146.html


51 posted on 05/31/2013 10:13:29 PM PDT by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: exDemMom

A thermometer demonstrates nothing in a world where exothermic processes abound.
***You’re displaying tremendous ignorance here. Let’s say a scientist measures the thermometer of a scaled device and it turns out to be 30 degC. Then he measures a very similar device and it turns out to be 300degC. Is the 2nd device 10X hotter than the first device? It’s a very, very straightforward answer, yet there are so many freepers inhabiting these threads who don’t seem to understand it.

The fact that Rossi won’t allow anyone but himself to actually see the “working parts” of his device
***It is black box testing. Why is that so hard to understand? Rossi is protecting his trade secret. The Wright brothers never submitted their device to demo until they had an agreement that once it was revealed, then they would get paid for selling airplanes. Freepers like you would have been calling the Wright brothers scam artists. It’s sickening.

or do any kind of meaningful analysis that would support his claim is a huge red flag.
***Once again. Try to get an idea of what black box testing is all about.

It’s also highly suspicious that he won’t actually disconnect his device from a power source while it’s supposedly running in self-sustaining mode.
***He has in the past, and this time around he wasn’t even present during the testing. So where do you get this idea?

And so on and so forth; it does not take a rocket scientist to pick out a scam here.
***It does appear that it takes someone with a very active imagination to invent one, however. You seem to have a very high opinion of Rossi — for your theory to be true he would need to be the greatest magician and scam artist in history. For mine to be true, he would only need to be a mediocre demonstrator.

As I’ve said before, and will continue to say, if there were anything scientific going on, I’d be happy to discuss it.
***Very highly doubtful.

Your repeated attempts to call this scam “science” don’t make it so.
***If it is a scam, then prove it. Send Rossi to jail. What Rossi is engaging in is engineering, and as a courtesy he sent one of his units to some scientists as long as they don’t steal his industrial secret. Science is trailing engineering at this point.

And, despite Intrade’s recently being shut down (for irregularities, go figure!), I am still highly suspicious of your claims to be investing in this scam.
***And now I am highly suspicious of your claims because you have such a high opinion of Rossi. Maybe it’s a conspiracy with those 7 scientists and those 14,700 replications which took place before Rossi even came onto the scene! Widest conspiracy theory in history. Good luck with that.


52 posted on 05/31/2013 10:25:37 PM PDT by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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