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"But I must correct that last errant assumption you made about being anti-science....That does not describe me, not even a little bit. I love science...I enjoy reading about it and I had no intention of making a issue of my skepticism regarding this device until you lambasted me over a post to someone else in which I tried to say that electrical measurements of the type the testers made are rarely if ever faked because it would show up in any subsequent test. The only way to do it would be to use de-calibrated or de-tuned measuring devices on each test. Some very unlikely to occur so the fakery, if there was any, was not electrical, or shielded power wiring."

If you want to get a REAL perspective of LENR as science, read the book by Charles Beaudette...."Excess Heat". It is a superb examination of the hard EXPERIMENTAL scientific evidence for the LENR effect. It is slightly out of date, as it only covers up until about 2005 or so, and much progress has been made since.

Rossi may turn out to be a fraud. LENR certainly is NOT.

I don’t criticize the effort. I think it may well be a total waste of time but we usually learn many things from the experimentation.

But you have to see the obvious here...

Transmutation of elements has been pursued for centuries. In the past and even in the present it has been to manufacture gold, but with todays science knowledge and social needs changing, the goal is now energy which is just as valuable as gold.

In comparison a gold bug with dreams of gilded walls is replaced by the low cost energy bug with dreams of walls covered with dollars and the idea that he saved the planet is also high on the list of dreams...

Saved the planet from what, would be my question but I digress...

For me, until the secrecy of the catalyst and perhaps some spectrometer analysis to back up whatever the claims of the contents and byproducts are, I will always see this one as a likely exothermic reaction.

Similar to a Cad welder in a box...... since I am quite familiar with exothermic bonding of copper. If this guy wants to get officially published, he will have to make his experiment wide open for others to repeat. He will have to give up the secret sauce.

If this is real, he will....If it’s fake...he won’t.

My bet is that he never does....and simply continues down this path asking for investment capital. Never doing a cost analysis since he cannot reveal all of the contents and what is consumed to create the heat.

Until he does......well........It’s just another one of those energy scams that replaced the gold scams of yesterday.