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To: Wonder Warthog

I don’t criticize the effort. I think it may well be a total waste of time but we usually learn many things from the experimentation.

But you have to see the obvious here...

Transmutation of elements has been pursued for centuries. In the past and even in the present it has been to manufacture gold, but with todays science knowledge and social needs changing, the goal is now energy which is just as valuable as gold.

In comparison a gold bug with dreams of gilded walls is replaced by the low cost energy bug with dreams of walls covered with dollars and the idea that he saved the planet is also high on the list of dreams...

Saved the planet from what, would be my question but I digress...

For me, until the secrecy of the catalyst and perhaps some spectrometer analysis to back up whatever the claims of the contents and byproducts are, I will always see this one as a likely exothermic reaction.

Similar to a Cad welder in a box...... since I am quite familiar with exothermic bonding of copper. If this guy wants to get officially published, he will have to make his experiment wide open for others to repeat. He will have to give up the secret sauce.

If this is real, he will....If it’s fake...he won’t.

My bet is that he never does....and simply continues down this path asking for investment capital. Never doing a cost analysis since he cannot reveal all of the contents and what is consumed to create the heat.

Until he does......well........It’s just another one of those energy scams that replaced the gold scams of yesterday.


357 posted on 05/27/2013 11:12:26 AM PDT by Cold Heat (Have you reached your breaking point yet? If not now....then when?)
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To: Cold Heat
"I don’t criticize the effort. I think it may well be a total waste of time but we usually learn many things from the experimentation.

What would be a total waste of time??? Reading Beaudette's book??

"But you have to see the obvious here..."

I'm a PhD chemist, with a Nuclear Science minor. I think I'm reasonably qualified to "see the obvious", and sometimes the "not so obvious"

"Transmutation of elements has been pursued for centuries. In the past and even in the present it has been to manufacture gold, but with todays science knowledge and social needs changing, the goal is now energy which is just as valuable as gold."

And now transmutation is done on a daily basis. Heck, even "I" used to do it, back when I was carrying out analyses by neutron activation analysis. And transmutation has been identified and validated as happening in "cold fusion" (by both Toshiba and Mitsubishi.....companies with a reasonable reputation for competence).

"In comparison a gold bug with dreams of gilded walls is replaced by the low cost energy bug with dreams of walls covered with dollars and the idea that he saved the planet is also high on the list of dreams...

Any scientist worth his degree would be motivated to do so, either from monetary remuneration, to benefit humanity, or both.

"Saved the planet from what, would be my question but I digress...

More like saved the human race from (eventual) extinction. Controlling fusion is the key to getting mankind off this planet and onto (or into) other locales. I don't know about you, but I think a high-energy usage future is better than a low-energy one.

"For me, until the secrecy of the catalyst and perhaps some spectrometer analysis to back up whatever the claims of the contents and byproducts are, I will always see this one as a likely exothermic reaction.

Both of the above have been done and validated...though not for Rossi's system (yet). The palladium/deuterium system has been thoroughly examined, and the reactants, products and energy balanced.

358 posted on 05/27/2013 11:37:45 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: Cold Heat

My bet is that he never does....and simply continues down this path asking for investment capital.
***He’s not asking for investment capital. One of the freepers on this board approached him 10 years ago and was politely turned down. His claim is that he’s shipping units to 1 or 2 customers. It is no longer a stretch to accept that customers would buy something that has been independently verified as having 10,000 times the energy density of gasoline.


367 posted on 05/27/2013 12:43:21 PM PDT by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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