[Buckeye McFrog]

The utopian planners seem addicted to the idea of infesting us with these things. I know of 3 or 4 planned here in the Pittsburgh area. The only one we had previously was in a county park, where there is a 15 MPH speed limit. And even it was dangerous enough.

[RayBob]

"The utopian planners seem addicted to the idea of infesting us with these things. I know of 3 or 4 planned here in the Pittsburgh area. The only one we had previously was in a county park, where there is a 15 MPH speed limit. And even it was dangerous enough."

The only one I've experienced is out in Cranberry/Mars on 228 in the area where Red Robin, Chik-fil-a and Smokey Bones are located. I hate it. Out there you get lots of Volvos with NPR stickers...