Posted on 05/21/2013 2:24:56 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Back in October 2011 I first wrote about Italian engineer, Andrea Rossi, and his E-Cat project, a device that produces heat through a process called a Low Energy Nuclear Reaction (LENR).
Very briefly, LENR, otherwise called cold fusion, is a technique that generates energy through low temperature (far lower than hot fusion temperatures which are in the range of tens off thousands of degrees) reactions that are not chemical. Most importantly, LENR is, theoretically, much safer, much simpler, and many orders of magnitude cheaper than hot fusion. Rather than explaining LENR in detail here please see my original posting for a more complete explanation.
My next post on this topic was here on Forbes a few days later and, as the labyrinthine and occasionally ridiculous saga developed, I tried to sort fact from fiction in a series of posts (see the list at the end of this posting) which covered everything from unconvincing demos, through an Australian businessman offering Rossi $1 million to show independently tested proof, to other players in the LENR market showing interesting results.
I haven’t posted about Rossi and his E-Cat since last August simply because there wasn’t much to report other than more of Rossi’s unsupported and infuriating claims that included building large-scale automated factories to churn out millions of E-Cats (the factories still have no sign of actually existing) through to unsubstantiated performance claims that sounded far too good to be true.
What everyone wanted was something that Rossi has been promising was about to happen for months: An independent test by third parties who were credible......
(Excerpt) Read more at forbes.com ...
I am invested in gasoline from water, that technology is decades old.
There are dozens of legitimate companies and universities studying this effect. But Rossi is all anyone ever wants to talk about.
oh I don’t know....maybe Solyndra comes to mind
“The authors of the paper lack full knowledge of the type and preparation of the materials used in the reactor and the modulation of input power, which, according to the paper, were industrial trade secrets.
The authors didn’t perform any calorimetry and used a method to measure temperature to extrapolate output power that neither they nor anyone in the field of low-energy nuclear reaction research has ever used to analyze for heat power or energy.
In response to a question from New Energy Times about whether he had full knowledge of how to perform and operate the experiment, Essén effectively confirmed that he had not replicated the experiment.
“No, but I am sure that I could repeat it with some effort,” Essén wrote.”
Thank you for posting this CRITICALLY IMPORTANT information. This belies all other claims
Kevmo must live in California
BWAHAHAHAHAHA underscore IF.....like when pigs fly
and much more likely to work
I, for one,would be happy to eat crow if this works. I don’t see that happening.
I would say there is something going on with LENR/LANR, not Rossi.
And you very well may be right. I’ve seen enough to doubt his veracity. If folks don’t have reservations about him by now, I’d say their not doing their homework.
Yes.
I do wish Rossi was not in the center of this. He is weird and not very stable. I would put a lot of credit for the device on Focardi. Rossi is standing on the shoulders of others. But that is a common trait with many innovations.
“they weren’t in control of all of the aspects of the process”
Well, there you go.
Oh, and I wonder what was in the “hermetically sealed” cylinders charged with a “powder” that was the most important part of the apparatus. You don’t suppose a conventional chemical reaction in there could be causing the heat?
super7man has moved on to ignoring freeper netiquette and not pinging another freeper when he mentions them... rather typical of the skeptopath crowd
BTW, this article has already been posted
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3021682/posts
You don’t suppose a conventional chemical reaction in there could be causing the heat?
***Fromthe abstract on Arxiv.org
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3021682/posts
Computed volumetric and gravimetric energy densities were found to be far above those of any known chemical source. Even by the most conservative assumptions as to the errors in the measurements, the result is still one order of magnitude greater than conventional energy sources.
And yet, I’ve been accused of wasting Freepers’ time and bandwidth. Now there is independent verification of such facts.
If it’s a fraud, it’s the most masterful fraud in history and even that is worth investigating.
There is NOTHING here except for more calls for $$$$s and investment.
***Where has Rossi taken anyone’s money? He claims to have a customer or 2, wouldn’t they be squawking loudly by now if he was a fraud? Oh, I know, don’t bother answering that, because you can’t... or it will be some ridiculous conspiracy theory involving all 7 authors of this paper and half a dozen more scientific luminaries.
“they weren’t in control of all of the aspects of the process” Well, there you go.
***It’s a test of a proprietary black box. There’s a considerably high duhh factor involved in that sort of testing, that obviously escapes you.
Because they are doubters..about the free energy that God made for all of us...but that has been subverted by very greedy men.
If it’s real doesn’t it radically change almost everything?
Yes.
I do wish Rossi was not in the center of this. He is weird and not very stable.
***I agree.
I would put a lot of credit for the device on Focardi. Rossi is standing on the shoulders of others. But that is a common trait with many innovations.
***Focardi gives Rossi the credit for coming up with the approach of splitting H2 gas into H1 gas so that the process would proceed more reliably. That’s his supposed ‘catalyst’. As a result, he’s the only man on the planet claiming that he’s shipped production units and has independent testing of his device. Yes, he stands on the shoulders of others. But no one else has managed to do so.
Ah, yes. The Duh! Factor. Sort of like the Wow! Factor, only without the high IQ.
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