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Here is why Homeland Security is buying so much ammo (My Working Theory)
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Posted on 04/26/2013 10:39:35 AM PDT by dila813

Quick run down on budget management in the federal government:
1. Prior to the start of the year, you made a budget request 10% higher than last year's budget
2. At the beginning of the fiscal year you are given a budget target to spend for the year
3. During the year, if you are running short due to demand you put in requests for supplemental funds
4. As you approach the end of the year, if it appears you are going to still have money left. You have to spend it, you look for items that aren't perishable and have a long time for storage (great place to look are items you placed a large number of orders during the year, as in number of orders not number of items). This routinely happens in Republican Administrations, in Democrat Administrations it can be 2-3x what you would normally see. I believe this is because the Dems are poor planners and only have eyes for key projects.

Ok, Baseline budgeting
1. Prior year exceptional spending becomes part of the base line budget going forward (like billions of dollars in upgraded luggage and people scanners in airports)
2. .... etc... rinse and repeat leading to inflated budgets

Ok, Supply Chains:
... commodities like ammo are produced linearly throughout the year because the inventory is cheaper than having excess capacity to react to changes in demand

further, when orders come in, no one is going to turn down the order no matter how big, but since it was such a huge order it took away all this critical buffer inventory leading to shortages when the public demand picked up at the same time eliminating all their inventory in their distribution channels.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: ammo; ammoshortage; banglist; baselinebudgeting; guncontrol; secondamendment
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To: dila813

***** “As far as the Purchasing agent is concerned, the requisition is the justification needed for making the buy.” *****

Correct

All Departments are notified and “THEIR” Budget will be cut if they don’t spend “ALL of Their Money” the Purchasing Agent merely gets the Bids, Makes the Purchase, Sets up Delivery and Records the Receipt ... (Then Accounts Payable drags their heels, squawks and pisses off Vendors, Slow Pays and pisses off Vendors making the Purchasing Agent’s job OHHHHH SOOO Much Fun) .... don’t miss that part of my life at all.

TT


61 posted on 04/26/2013 1:46:16 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (Idiocracy used to just be a Movie... Live every day as your last...one day you will be right)
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To: Boogieman

if it is a contract, it isn’t a purchase.

contracts are almost like letter of intents or what the private sector calls blanket purchase orders.

you haven’t purchased till you receive it.

I think this whole thing might be just confusion over language.

That being said, I am sure there is a warehouse with ammo stockpiled.


62 posted on 04/26/2013 1:54:58 PM PDT by dila813
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To: dila813

Yes, that may be the case, but still, the contracts are not out of line with amounts previously contracted. I don’t know if we have the statistics available of exactly how much of the previous contracts were filled, but from the statistics we do have, it doesn’t seem very unusual.


63 posted on 04/26/2013 2:36:58 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

They are reporting purchases of two billion rounds!! You and the rest of the Obamabots who dilute this conservative website can pretend that this is nothing out of the ordinary, but now that even Investors Business Daily has become alarmed (http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/042613-653769-why-dhs-needs-more-bullets-than-army.htm) you have been exposed, and the Breitbart site, sadly, will have to eat crow.


64 posted on 04/26/2013 3:49:12 PM PDT by Piranha
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To: Piranha

“What does not make sense in the information you provided is that Customs and Border Control used (around 14 million) rounds for operational purposes when they rarely fire their guns,” a skeptical Chaffetz said, citing just one example of a particular allocation.

Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), which falls under DHS’s jurisdiction, fired “less than 100 rounds” during 15 shooting incidents last year, according to Humberto Medina, assistant director of ICE’s’ National Firearm and Tactical Training Unit. By this criterion, the DHS stockpile should last a very long time.

I was under the impression that “operational purposes” was using your weapon in the line of duty. 14 million rounds? I must have been wrong....or not. So, since we know that they didn’t use 14million rounds in the line of duty, where did they go??


65 posted on 04/26/2013 4:09:19 PM PDT by saleman
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To: Boogieman

The Marine corps took delivery of the first few and they were so crappy they cancelled the contract. Finally the DHS has bought them.


66 posted on 04/26/2013 5:20:40 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Mr. K
“As you approach the end of the year, if it appears you are going to still have money left. You have to spend it, “<<<

Bingo!...and School Districts, Fire Depts, Police depts and any other tax payer sponsored entity do the exact same thing!.....IT'S THE NATURE OF THE BEAST!

67 posted on 04/26/2013 6:36:39 PM PDT by M-cubed
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To: dila813

Your naivete is astounding!


68 posted on 04/26/2013 6:38:32 PM PDT by miserare
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To: miserare

I am sorry that I couldn’t confirm your conspiracy theory, ammo purchases are directed at the agency level.


69 posted on 04/26/2013 7:07:18 PM PDT by dila813
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To: dila813

Ok, why does Her Butchness need 2700 APCs for DHS? Has any explanation ever been given?


70 posted on 04/27/2013 1:13:17 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Piranha

More about the frightening purchases of huge amounts of firearms by the government and its demonization of conservatives: http://www.examiner.com/article/dhs-training-video-depicts-gun-owners-as-militia-members-planning-terrorism


71 posted on 04/27/2013 10:22:09 PM PDT by Piranha
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To: Piranha

“They are reporting purchases of two billion rounds!!”

The two billion rounds is a five year contract, which is a fairly recent change. So, if you compare that to previous years that weren’t on five-year contracts, it looks impressive, but it really isn’t out of line with the previous contracts.

“You and the rest of the Obamabots who dilute this conservative website...”

If you have to resort to this nonsense, then you aren’t serious about the issue at all.


72 posted on 04/29/2013 8:57:31 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Yes, but the fact remains that DHS didn’t purchase them, the Marines did. Seems they were a bunch of lemons and they pawned them off on DHS, so I don’t see what the hubbub is about.


73 posted on 04/29/2013 9:07:16 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

All right-thinking conservatives, including myself, are very serious about this issue. Left-wing ridicule won’t work here.


74 posted on 04/29/2013 9:51:29 AM PDT by Piranha
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To: Boogieman

The hub bub is that what does the DHS need 2717 armored trucks for?


75 posted on 04/29/2013 10:05:31 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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