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Family ripped from their home at gunpoint; Police storm the property looking for terrorists
Live Leak ^ | April 20, 2013 | Staff

Posted on 04/22/2013 5:56:56 PM PDT by LucyT

Friday, April 19, 2013, during a manhunt for a bombing suspect, police and federal agents spent the day storming people's homes and performing illegal searches. While it was unclear initially if the home searches were voluntary, it is now crystal clear that they were absolutely NOT voluntary. Police were filmed ripping people from their homes at gunpoint, marching the residents out with their hands raised in submission, and then storming the homes to perform their illegal searches.

This was part of a larger operation that involved total lockdown of the suburban neighbor to Boston. Roads were barricaded and vehicle traffic was prohibited. A No-Fly Zone was declared over the town. People were "ordered" to stay indoors. Businesses were told not to open. National Guard soldiers helped with the lockdown, and were photographed checking IDs of pedestrians on the streets. All the while, police were performing these disgusting house-to-house searches.


TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: bloombergpowergrab; breachoftrust; drill; excessforce; housesearches; martiallaw; militartyequipment; notvoluntary; police; search; watertown; watertownfamilies
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To: EternalVigilance; LucyT
"They’ve virtually never heard of exigent circumstances, which is the legal criteria.

http://definitions.uslegal.com/e/exigent-circumstances/"

From the link you provided:

Exigent circumstances are said to exist when

(1) a person's life or safety is threatened

(2) a suspect's escape is imminent, or

(3) evidence is about to be removed or destroyed.

I'm wondering:

1) What made the police believe that each and every person in those houses life or safety was threatened? Did they hear loud noise/cries for help/screaming in each and every house? Did they here gunshot or explosions in each and every case? Did they know for sure the suspect was in that particular area? Did they see him enter one of the houses...or all of them at some point? What made them think each person, in their home, was in imminent danger?

2) The suspects escape wasn't imminent. He had already escaped. They had no idea where he was.

3) What made them think evidence was about to be removed or destroyed? Referring back to #1, did they have reason to believe the residence of each house was about to destroy evidence? Did they see the subject, in each of the houses, in a manner that lead them to believe evidence was about to be removed/destroyed in each case?

I'm not so sure "Exigent" circumstances were in play in each of those cases.

Some of the people were searched. Why? Why did the police need to search these people as they came out of their homes? What made them believe these people themselves where suspects coming out of their homes?

To me, this looks like clear 4th Amendment violation, people were forcibly removed from their homes and searched.

This video is a must see. The people of this particular house were orderd out. Why? Did they have reason to believe the suspect was in that house? Based on what? Watch how each person who is exiting the house is searched. Why? Furthermore, how long were those people detained? Where did they take them? Why were others allowed to stay in their houses (i.e. the person taking this video)

house search in watertown, ma

Clearly nothing imminant was going on here as the police calmly and quitely walked away, and the people who were forced out of their house and searched can be seen walking back near the end of the video as other people walk outside their homes to look around.

They even landed a (at least one) military chopper in the area. Why?

If the government is going to try to claim it was essentially a war zone (which is probably the only thing that would make sense for these actions), then the bomber in custody needs to be held as an enemy combatant and they need to level with us about the alledged multi-person terror cell that's probably involved.

This was a terrible situation made worse.

401 posted on 04/23/2013 12:52:28 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: EnquiringMind

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Check out # 401.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3011135/posts?page=401#401

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402 posted on 04/23/2013 1:42:48 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: rxsid

Feel free to come on tonight’s America’s Summit, Restore the Republic call if you would like to discuss this important matter. Everyone gets a chance to make their views known, as long as they treat everyone else on the call with respect.

9:00 p.m. Eastern

Call-in number:

(218) 936-4343

Conference ID:

340794#


403 posted on 04/23/2013 2:56:05 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (RINOism to Libertarianism: Out of the frying pan and into the fire.)
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To: LucyT

Feel free to come on tonight’s America’s Summit, Restore the Republic call if you would like to discuss this important matter. Everyone gets a chance to make their views known, as long as they treat everyone else on the call with respect.

9:00 p.m. Eastern

Call-in number:

(218) 936-4343

Conference ID:

340794#


404 posted on 04/23/2013 2:56:25 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (RINOism to Libertarianism: Out of the frying pan and into the fire.)
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To: EternalVigilance

These same tactics will be used when the time comes for big daddy government to collect ALL firearms of dissenters. For the safety of the people. Of course it could also be said the police HAD to conduct the search in this manner because the goverment had already disarmed the People and they could not defend themselves from the lone 19 yo terrorist.

Brave new world and all...


405 posted on 04/23/2013 3:00:55 PM PDT by subterfuge (CBS NBC ABC FOX AP-- all no different than Pravda.)
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To: Alaska Wolf

I see you still are UNABLE to answer the questions I asked of you.

Decided to shovel snow instead?


406 posted on 04/23/2013 4:09:24 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: LucyT

hundreds of cops raided just about every house in that town. they ordered everyone in a house out at gunpoint with their hands up. here is a video of some of the raids:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=B_Gb6i5DF9k&NR=1

they had armored vehicles, machine guns, armor etc.

all this for 1 guy

they ordered a lockdown where no one could leave their house and no one could go into their house. This is against freedom. I would sue these commies


407 posted on 04/23/2013 4:18:05 PM PDT by Democrat_media (s tMary Landrieu voted for the UN to take away our 2nd amendment rights)
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To: rxsid

Good post...You won’t get any answers.

Just deception and evasion.


408 posted on 04/23/2013 4:21:36 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: INVAR
LOL, I'm so glad about your opinion, it's so amazing considering you shilled for Axelrod's "operation demoralize" and helped reelect the worst statist ever. Everything he does reminds me of idiots like you, you own it all, the gun control, the bombings, the crap we have to listen to every day.

You're nothing but a joke of a human being pretending to be intelligent and pretending to be a conservative.

You're so stupid, it's doubtful you even understand either word......

409 posted on 04/23/2013 4:25:07 PM PDT by Lakeshark (!)
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To: Alaska Wolf
You can dance it all ya want, but Alaska's president like everyone else in the U.S., is the Mystic Muslim.

Not because he received our electoral votes like he did California's.

And Alaska went and voted for Bush right Mr. Woof?

The same Bush who spent the American treasure with his compassionate decades long wars?

The same Bush who made American citizenship pointless as our borders became a violent lawless free for all..During war time?

And didn't Alaska support Bush, when AFTER 911 he allowed into the U.S. more Muslims than the previous two decades?

How'd that work out for you, Alaska and everyone else Mr. Woof?

410 posted on 04/23/2013 4:31:14 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: rxsid
If the government is going to try to claim it was essentially a war zone (which is probably the only thing that would make sense for these actions), then the bomber in custody needs to be held as an enemy combatant and they need to level with us about the alledged multi-person terror cell that's probably involved.

BUMP! BUMP! BUMP! Don't move to MA, clearly you are too clever, too informed for them to contain.

And The Marlboro Man showed the PD how it's done. Wonder if they will find violations on the Patriot's property for shaming them while they were being frantic and 'Nazi' like.

411 posted on 04/23/2013 4:35:56 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: LucyT
I would have been frightened to death. what if you get nervous had a drink in your house and didn't follow their orders to put your hands up etc. If these gov goons put me out of my house at gun point , treating me like a suspect , humiliating me like that, when i hadn't done anything, I would sue their nazi communists hides

getting an army together to go against 1 guy and against families. i saw a video of them point machine guns at a guy with a small little frightened child in his hands, and of women too with their hands up. incredible. this is not America

The government are the terrorists, the government is the enemy, and many on this threat are for this gov tyranny and are cheering the gov on . they like liberals/democrats trust the government

I'm more scared of the government than of any single little jihadist that will never affect me anyway because of the probalilities ( so rare). and even if one did try to get in my house or a robber i could defend myself and don't need to turn the USA into commuunist country for 1 guy

412 posted on 04/23/2013 4:37:42 PM PDT by Democrat_media (s tMary Landrieu voted for the UN to take away our 2nd amendment rights)
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To: LucyT
I would have been frightened to death. what if you get nervous had a drink in your house and didn't follow their orders to put your hands up etc. If these gov goons put me out of my house at gun point , treating me like a suspect , humiliating me like that, when i hadn't done anything, I would sue their nazi communists hides

getting an army together to go against 1 guy and against families. i saw a video of them point machine guns at a guy with a small little frightened child in his hands, and of women too with their hands up. incredible. this is not America

The government are the terrorists, the government is the enemy, and many on this thread(many so called conservatives) are for this gov tyranny and are cheering the gov on . they like liberals/democrats trust the government

I'm more scared of the government than of any single little jihadist that will never affect me anyway because of the probabilities ( so rare). and even if one did try to get in my house or a robber i could defend myself and don't need to turn the USA into commuunist country for 1 guy

413 posted on 04/23/2013 4:39:45 PM PDT by Democrat_media (s tMary Landrieu voted for the UN to take away our 2nd amendment rights)
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To: dragnet2
Alaska's president like everyone else in the U.S.

We just didn't give him our electoral votes and send POS like Pelosi, Boxer, Feinstein, et al to Washington D.C. to ruin the country.

Alaska went and voted for Bush

Yes, not Obama like you morons.

414 posted on 04/23/2013 4:56:07 PM PDT by Alaska Wolf (I)
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To: Democrat_media
I would sue their nazi communists hides

Maybe you can convince the ACLU and some of those dragged, kicking and screaming from their homes to file suit?

415 posted on 04/23/2013 5:00:56 PM PDT by Alaska Wolf (I)
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To: Alaska Wolf
Maybe you can convince the ACLU and some of those dragged, kicking and screaming from their homes to file suit?

While you were 'trying' to convince them to behave and to stay in their house - they are under martial law!! Alaska Flip Flop!

416 posted on 04/23/2013 5:09:24 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Alaska Wolf
how would you like it gov thugs ordered you out of your house without a warrant and pointed guns and your family and yelled at you to put your hands up,treated you like a criminal , humiliated you , for no reason except their stupid justification that they want to catch some lone teenager

you trust gov don't you?

417 posted on 04/23/2013 5:09:43 PM PDT by Democrat_media (s tMary Landrieu voted for the UN to take away our 2nd amendment rights)
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To: Alaska Wolf

when they use the exact same tactics to take our guns for whatever stupid reason they give , what side will you be on that of individual rights or the government and the collective?


418 posted on 04/23/2013 5:12:00 PM PDT by Democrat_media (s tMary Landrieu voted for the UN to take away our 2nd amendment rights)
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To: Alaska Wolf

The same Bush who spent the American treasure with his compassionate decades long wars?

The same Bush who made American citizenship pointless as our borders became a violent lawless free for all..During war time?

And didn’t Alaska support Bush, when AFTER 911 he allowed into the U.S. more Muslims than the previous two decades?

How’d that work out for you, Alaska and everyone else Mr. Woof?


419 posted on 04/23/2013 5:17:40 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Democrat_media
when they use the exact same tactics to take our guns

Who is they? When is this supposed to occur and how many will it take to canvass all the buildings, boats, RVs and vehicles in the United States? Think about it. There aren't enough military and law enforcement people in the country to undertake such a task.

420 posted on 04/23/2013 5:19:28 PM PDT by Alaska Wolf (I)
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