Foxnews Advice to Citizens on Events Like the Boston Bombing [Vanity on segment]

Vanity | 4/20/2013 | Self

[PieterCasparzen]

Fox news has their medical guy on a little segment a few minutes ago, "on the couch", I guess it was Saturday morning fox and friends.

The guy's big advice for everyone:

a) Think of the "positives". What does he list as the positives ? The surgeons, the government's first responders, the police, etc. He says to focus on the heroics of people working for the medical community and the government. Not once did he say anything about individual citizens who were not part of the machinery of state. His comments suggest that everyone should be cheering on the implementers of the city-wide Boston lockdown, where civilians were ordered off the streets.

b) Get back to normal. Go on about your business.

Now, is that not propaganda aimed at exactly what I spoke of in my post yesterday, or what ?

Tinfoil is all I hear, tinfoil, tinfoil.

But somehow when you get into the details of every script on TV, whether it's news, entertainment or the mixture we so often see, it's all subtly marching everyone in the direction of obedience to the police state.

I hear a lot of people cheering on the police state, often the same people who say how stupid the pre-WWII German public was for accepting a police state.

Ok, back to business, nothing to see here.

[so_real]

The same way it's been handled in this nation for 200+ years, or better, go back to the way it was handled 100 years ago. The whole "shutdown a city" tactic is a pretty new event and historically unnecessary.

[TheGunny]

You my friend are unbelievable. The BS wasnt laying IED’s around the city. The police did EXACTLY what they should have done here. In the case of an Active Shooter scenario (with IED’s to boot) the less people moving around the better...it worked exactly the way it should have. I also agree with a former post that we have broken new ground here.

[jimjohn]

Here’s what I found interesting this morning:

I’m in the Boston area listening to the talk show feedback. While everyone is applauding the de facto police state, and others on this thread asking what *should* law enforcement have done in the alternative, much of the criticism was about the one person who [shouting mode on] BROKE THE RULES OF THE POLICE STATE, walked outside and noticed a blood trail. [shouting mode off]. If he and everyone else would have obeyed the rules, you may have never found the perp.

Lesson: It’s better to have a million extra pairs of eyes instead of just a few whose first priority is not become the next victim.

Also, with all the glad-handing being done by law enforcement and others, this case AGAIN displays a great weakness in American society for future enemies to exploit.

Just like with the DC sniper, a couple of individuals hell bent on destruction can cause a whole area to go into lockdown. In DC is was just roadblocks everywhere. In Boston , it was Martial Law (sans rounding up suspects at random).

Just think about what our enemies are visualizing while watching American TV and America’s reaction to it all?

I’ll leave you with this: Back in about 1999, some U.S. Army pilot flying an A-10 with 4-500 lb bombs strapped under its wings decided to change course and vanish off radar (I’m sure some of you remember this story - it was during the McVeigh trial in Denver). Some stupid General (who should have immediate fired) gave a press conference saying “Once the pilot turned north and went below 500 feet, we lost him on radar due to the ground clutter, and that’s why we can’t find him”. Thank you, General Idiot for explaining to the world how to lose a plane in U.S. Airspace.

... this is what pretty much happened again 2 years later. There’s a couple of missing skyscrapers to show for it.

Think about it.

[Carl Vehse]

Be prepared! Because do you really you think these two goofballs, including a teenager who ran over his own brother, were sophisticated enough to plan, obtain the explosives, supplies, and electronics, assemble, and then deliver two electronically detonated bombs all on their own? And no escape plan for getting out of Boston?

These two were expendable delivery boys for a larger islamoterrorist group.

[milagro]

The bombers were able to do their heinous act because they blended into a huge crowd so well nobody paid much attention to their deadly back packs. And even after they committed their horrific crime, they blended in again and got away.

They probably would have, if the one brave soul who had both legs blown off hadn't woken up from his surgery and told his brother he saw they guy set down his back pack, and thus given a clear ID of the "guy in the white cap on backwards".

The FBI already had photos of these two guys--they were even posted here on FR--but they had no real evidence to ID them as suspects, until they got the info from the victim.

That's when the FBI could announce they had two suspects, and zero in on photos of the two brothers. And they only way to "flush them out" was to make sure they could NOT blend in again--that's when the lockdown was announced.

And--to me--it was an idea that actually worked, since they had to wait til dark to hi-jack and SUV and get cash at an ATM.

Until then, they seemed intent on laying low until they could create more havoc--judging by the pressure cooker bomb and pipe bombs they had with them when they encountered the police Thursday night.

All in all, I think the FBI and the police deserve the spontaneous outpouring of thanks they received from so many people in Boston--and would not want to be critical of any big city LEO's for having a bit of a "besieged" mentality since all too often it is for a good reason.

That being said, I am glad I live in a small town in a part of the country where people DO NOT rely ONLY on LEOs for protection!

[stuartcr]

What advice would you give the country if you were on tv?

[stuartcr]

You don’t believe terrorism would exist if there was no Islam? Is everything religious to you?

[PieterCasparzen]

Which “major” cities have ever had the possibility of pipe bombs hidden all over the city.

I think until they really knew what they were working with, and where the other guy was, they had to close the city down.

Every major city has that possibility every day; guys like this are all over the place in America. They were let in when they should not have been let in.

There were glaring indications of possible trouble, but these obvious terrorists - and many others like them - fit in well in our subversive college system and with our subversive youth culture.

LE is ordered to entirely ignore them, even if they come in contact with them and are suspicious. They still are ignored, the file is closed.

Instead, our police are ordered to focus on American Christians, i.e., the good guys. They are tasked mostly with giving us traffic tickets, a job that not many enjoy all that much I gather.

It would be very easy for those who sent these guys to set up a massive series of similar attacks with hundreds of these operatives that goes on for months all across America. Here a bomb, there a bomb. How many cities can be put on lockdown and for how long ?

Some basic troubleshooting skills, properly applied, reveal that the whole problem is by design.

The lockdowns would only have to be for perhaps a month. With the media propagandizing as they do, it would not take much to say "emergency government reforms" are necessary and have most of the population happy about the changes.

Most people would cheer - "it's about time they did something about those terrorists".

The only thing holding back that idea is the millions of gun owners in America. That's why all American gun owners are slowly but increasingly branded as terrorists by ALL the media. So the people inside their homes on lockdown watching the news will cheer as the government forces defeat the "terrorists".

This is only hypothetical; it's all tinfoil for many people; fear, and folklore.

[swamprebel]

I know that the profound majority of terrorist acts trace back to radical religious fanatics. In this Century it has been Islamic fanatics. Name a Christian terrorist in the last 30 years.

[stuartcr]

Is everything religious to you?

[swamprebel]

The opposite of good is evil. It’s basic physic’s, when a first body exerts a force F1 on a second body, the second body simultaneously exerts a force F2 = −F1 on the first body. IOW for each “force” their is an equal and opposite “force”. Ascribing labels is a function of ones frame of reference.

[RegulatorCountry]

You’re dealing with a leftie troll who believes herself to be beneath the radar on FR, imho. If you get an answer other than a leading, leftie question in response, it’ll likely be Eric Rudolph. Do not be fooled, whatever Rudolph was, it wasn’t very Christian. I went to college not all that far from the area where he lived, as well as where he hid for however long. I’ve stayed in contact with people in that area. He was a drug dealer and anecdotally believed to have been responsible for a lot of the marijuana grown there. No one knew him to be particularly religious in any way. His family wasn’t. He came there with them as a teen from I believe Florida. Big presence of former Floridians in that part of the southern Appalachians.

[stuartcr]

good and bad are physical in nature to you?

[kevslisababy]

I think that 100years ago, the men of the community would have armed up, formed a posse and helped out, not stayed in the house.

[binreadin]

I believe the fellow who noticed the blood and the cut tarp strap had gone out of his house only after the police had lifted the order instructing people not to leave their homes. This was a tough situation for the police, especially given the explosives involved, but we have to keep in mind that the deprivation of civil liberties by the authorities is a situation that terrorists are aiming to create. In addition to mayhem, they are striving to create an anti-authoritarian backlash among the citizenry. So far I think they have become pretty successful. We now have to suspend our 4th amendment rights to fly and even our local police have a paramilitary appearance and the equipment to match. It was very disquieting to watch a whole city locked down. Luckily it didn’t last a long time, but they were detaining some of those who broke the lock-down rules. Personally, I’d rather take my chances than have my choices taken from me. Tough call for the police. This group handled it well, but I’m worried about creating a precedent to be used by less professional law enforcement officers.

[swamprebel]

Thank you, I won’t feed a troll
;)

[WatchOutForSnakes]

“While everyone is applauding the de facto police state, and others on this thread asking what *should* law enforcement have done in the alternative, much of the criticism was about the one person who [shouting mode on] BROKE THE RULES OF THE POLICE STATE, walked outside and noticed a blood trail. [shouting mode off]. If he and everyone else would have obeyed the rules, you may have never found the perp.”

It’s my understanding that the one person who “BROKE THE RULES OF THE POLICE STATE” did not go outside until after the police press conference where the lockdown was ended and residents were told they could go about their business but be careful.

I think the police did a fantastic job here and I would have no objections to being told to stay inside for my own safety if there was a shooter, bomber suspected to be in my neighborhood. If I was told to stay in my house for no good reason, then we can talk.

[FlingWingFlyer]

Too bad they didn’t kill both perps.

I agree with you 100%. I am already starting to sense that "the way America treats its immigrants" will be going on trial here. It started last night after the coward's surrender and I'm picking up more vibes about that line of thinking on the news this morning. The liberals are going to try to convince the low information types that Americans, not the terrorists, are the real problem. WE made them do it.

[Travis McGee]

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[Vaquero]

The liberals are going to try to convince the low information types that Americans, not the terrorists, are the real problem. WE made them do it.

read between the lines and you see zer0 and his regime are blaming our community....(of course he had to interrupt important news with his big friggin mouth)

“Why did young men who grew up and studied here as part of our communities and our country resort to such violence?”