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Bare Bones Conspiracy Theorist's Boston Bomb & Lockdown Synopsis [Vanity]
Vanity | 4/19/2013 | Self

Posted on 04/19/2013 5:10:37 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen

I don't have time to speculate much about detailed investigative facts about the Boston Bomb & Lockdown at this time. Just postulating a few basic points for those interested.

IMHO...

Today's exercise is part of a very simple, long-term strategy, that has been in place for a long time at a very high level.

The planning and execution of individual attacks is accomplished by organizations detached from the high-level strategists.

The strategy is partly geared towards several target groups, in particular conservatives, christians who have not bought into globalism and gun owners.

Part of the goal is to marginalize these groups, which will marginalize their principles, so that America will be more accepting of an authoritarian state.

One desired effect on the target groups is to get them agitated so some will be drawn to actually support authoritarian police actions such as were demonstrated in Boston today.

It's also interesting to note that Republican politicians will be able to simultaneously support the above high-level strategy and rebuild their conservative image by being "tough on terror" and supporting this lockdown.

Having these target groups very agitated is also designed to provoke responses from individuals which can be used to brand the entire group, and possibly even provoke some to violence, which, of course, would be a huge win for the political left (as well as the "high-level strategists").

To counteract this desired effect, one only needs to be calm and express skepticism about the whole situation and a lack of acceptance of the tactics. It never hurts to point out news media manipulation either.

Another desired effect is to stoke as much anger at and resentment of islam as possible in the target groups.

Once again, a firm and calm approach is best when expressing opposition. IMHO, muslims who will not renounce the wickedness that is islam should simply be sent back where they came from, and that solves most of America's terrorism problems. Of course, this will not happen in a day, but it must proceed one step at a time, otherwise statism is advancing one step at a time.

Another desired effect is to instill fear of massively dangerous events (even though this is a single person with conventional weapons, which has never lead to a lockdown on this scale) in the population at large.

At the same time the intent is also to instill in the population a trust in government as being their sole protector, and - most importantly - acceptance of the government using draconian measures such as the Boston lockdown. This lockdown sets the precedent for locking down whole cities, after which repetition will bring desensitization to such actions.

Most government and LE personnel have no idea of how this attack actually came about, they're just following orders from further up the chain of command, and those at the top are undoubtedly simply following current practices emanating out of the current thought leaders of LE.

I. The most simple logic that does not add up (though one periodical I came across suggested that recent Putin remarks somehow do make this add up)...

A) Chechnya's muslim agitators' big enemy is Russia.

B) Russia's greatest "adversary" is America.

C) So it makes no sense for a Chechnyan terrorist to target America, the enemy of his enemy, unless there is some other plot afoot.

II. Non-governmental organizations, intelligence (espionage) services (including both CIA and KGB) and major arms and black market operators have been running amok in Central and Eastern Europe for many years. There is no public record of what US interests have been doing or causing in the area, who they have worked with, money flows, etc.; the only oversight is by Congressional committees which have a history of frustrated inquiries. It's all apparently a "state secret".

III. Perhaps research by individual citizens or small groups into II. would shed some light. Some folks that are heavily involved in international trade, for example (for example only, not to imply anything), on the order of Marc Rich, the stereotypical fugitive billionaire, have relationships with all sorts of characters as well as with intelligence services and governments. In the case of Rich, he has relationships to the point of getting a pardon from a U.S. President - that's a lot of influence - based on, we can only assume, services rendered or renderable. IMHO, the world of espionage, terrorism and international finance is a complex stew, stirred by a number of secretive and very influential hands, and this week's operatives du jour, like all operatives, are ultimately just pawns on the chessboard of the wealthy and powerful.


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1 posted on 04/19/2013 5:10:37 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen
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To: PieterCasparzen

Not at all out of the ball park.


2 posted on 04/19/2013 5:14:58 PM PDT by Dallas59 (America died a little bit more on 11/6/2012)
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To: PieterCasparzen

Or
Islamic groups have declared war on the West.
These idiots joined said groups.
These idiots took part in that war.

Which is more logical?


4 posted on 04/19/2013 5:23:26 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: PieterCasparzen

Infowars ——————>that way


5 posted on 04/19/2013 5:26:24 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: PieterCasparzen

Interesting vanity. Were there any chem trails in the area?


6 posted on 04/19/2013 5:27:32 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (I voted Republican, no Conservative was on the ballot.)
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To: PieterCasparzen
C) So it makes no sense for a Chechnyan terrorist to target America, the enemy of his enemy, unless there is some other plot afoot.

You were doin' pretty good 'til there.

Putin is brilliant at this sort of stuff, and he "arranged" for the Chechens to emigrate to America, Canada and Western Europe because he understands them completely.

He knew they would do exactly this, and it's payback.

7 posted on 04/19/2013 5:29:35 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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8 posted on 04/19/2013 5:33:54 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: Dallas59

We’ve been killing Chechen muslims in Islamic countries for more than a decade. They don’t love us any more than they love the Russians. The simple fact is, they’re radical muslims and we’re infidels

Aukai Collins is a good example of an American muslim who fought with the Chechens in Chechnya, Afghanistan and Bosnia. He claims to be on our side now but I wouldn’t trust him as far as I could throw him on that score. I remember seeing an interview with him and he warned that we have a problem with Chechens even if we don’t know it.


9 posted on 04/19/2013 5:35:00 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Navy Patriot
Putin is brilliant at this sort of stuff, and he "arranged" for the Chechens to emigrate to America, Canada and Western Europe because he understands them completely.

He knew they would do exactly this, and it's payback.


IMHO, the US government seems to - for decades - have been welcoming people from all but a tiny handful of countries. And even they slip through. We have folks pouring in here from every muslim country over the past few decades.

I don't think Putin had any work on his part required; do you think Putin's the key here ?
10 posted on 04/19/2013 5:37:27 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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We’ve been killing Chechen muslims in Islamic countries for more than a decade.

That's what I'm talking about. No declarations of war on our part.

And no accounting of WHO got USAID money, how much...

And what organizations they were starting/fomenting.

How many "off-budget" CIA operations/State Dept operations are there over there ?

All "state secrets". National security, can't reveal it.
11 posted on 04/19/2013 5:41:56 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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Interesting observation. Totalitarianism advances. Jihad advances. Statism advances. The deconstruction of these united STATES of america advances. United? Against?...

...all enemies foreign and domestic.

(What would Pooty-Poot do?)/sarcasm


12 posted on 04/19/2013 5:42:41 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: mnehring

Local Mega Mart having sale on Reynolds Wrap if that
doesnt work ........


13 posted on 04/19/2013 5:44:22 PM PDT by njslim (St)
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To: PieterCasparzen
That's what I'm talking about. No declarations of war on our part.

Its an issue but certainly not one specific to the Chechens. They just happen to have a mercenary streak and we'll find them wherever we're fighting muslims. If I recall correctly Bush sent some troops to work with the Russians in Chechnya as a means of learning more about them.
14 posted on 04/19/2013 5:48:34 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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the US government seems to - for decades - have been welcoming people from all but a tiny handful of countries.

True, but incomplete. Ted (Commie) Kennedy's immigration reform excluded educated, white, productive Europeans, and reserved the slots for poor, ignorant, unhealthy, socialist minorities.

We have folks pouring in here from every Muslim country over the past few decades.

Duh, engineered by the Socialist DemoRats.

Now you need a couple of facts: the same Socialist DemoRats really like to be rich and, in fact, are the evil rich that they raise the proletariat useful idiot ire against.

However the cooperative Western MSM keeps them in the shadows and shines the spotlight on conservative and Republican businessmen that are rich but not evil.

This allows people like George Soros and the Clintons to hatch plots to loot entire nations for personal gain.

Recovering Russia was a target of Soros and Clinton's plans, part of which included the Rat/Clinton/NATO attack on Serbia in support of the Kosovo Muslim criminals.

Payback for this is what Putin is all about, he has learned America's (and the Rat's) weakness and exploited it. That is t cozy up to and coddle Muslim terrorist criminals.

Putin implemented the Georgian and Chechen wars and co-opted the Chechen military for payback and to pressure Chechen terrorists to emigrate to Europe and America, knowing they would do what they do, that's what they are.

15 posted on 04/19/2013 6:49:39 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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The whole thing is so idiotic since we could just bar them from entering the US.

We’ve done that with other countries.

A few will come in seeking asylum, but far less than when we swing that golden door open for all the refuse to come in.

The big problem I have with fighting such mercenaries wherever we’re fighting muslims...

We know they’re partly paid, at least, by US tax-deductable contributions to US-based islamic charity front organizations.

Throughout the mideast USAID is pumping billions in grants to NGOs to “organize” muslims.

USAID has never publicly produced a thorough listing of its payees and amounts to allow for anyone to find out...

whether or not the mercenary organizations are receiving aid or organizational or other assistance from these NGOs.

I’d hate to find out that my government was part of some crazy scheme where it knows that somebody is rigging both sides of a war and they’re sending our guys in there anyway.

I can’t stand that idea, it’s playing decent Americans for chumps, and in a life-and-death way.

Until islam in the US is ended, one thing I do know is that the government is letting more bad guys in every day.

They say we have a problem - but they are creating the problem.


16 posted on 04/19/2013 7:00:52 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: PieterCasparzen

Occam’s Razors are in lane 12.


17 posted on 04/19/2013 7:09:05 PM PDT by Paradox (Unexpected things coming for the next few years.)
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To: Navy Patriot
We have folks pouring in here from every Muslim country over the past few decades.

Duh, engineered by the Socialist DemoRats.


Republicans never stop immigration when they control Congress and the WH. They open it right up - that raises a flag for me. They never seriously cut spending, they never significantly eliminate agencies or departments. They always blame it on Democrats and not having control of both houses. But when they control it all the free-for-all continues in DC.

Yes, I agree that the Democratic party is a basically a front for communist/socialists, however...

there are a lot more people besides Soros and the Clintons who are wealthy and powerful and part of the effort to move towards globalism, and I'm sure mini-me and the Klintonistas are NOT the ones being called Sir when they converse. Soros was made by someone else; his funds manage money for "clients". Try finding out about who's on his boards of directors, perhaps who his biggest "clients" are. Soros is a billionaire, but he is not running the world by himself.

I think it's most difficult to deal with the idea that Wall Street could be pro-communism.

Large publicly-held firms and Wall Street firms send billions and billions of dollars all over the world to "combat hunger", "fight AIDS", etc. I've never heard Wall Street sent one penny to "end communism".

Wait... gee... they have invested billions and billions into communist China.

Oh, that's ok - the "conservative" "pro-business" Republican politicians will get up on their soapbox and scream and shout and put an end to trading with Communists !

Crickets...

I know it may hurt, but it's better to admit it. We're gettin' it from both sides.
18 posted on 04/19/2013 7:50:30 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: Navy Patriot

I don’t know a whole lot about this, but haven’t Chechnyans been political tools of the Russians for years? I seem to remember hearing something about that...


19 posted on 04/19/2013 8:00:41 PM PDT by Califreak (11/6/12 The Day America Divided By Zero)
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To: PieterCasparzen
I know it may hurt, but it's better to admit it. We're gettin' it from both sides.

I agree, but you misread my post.

I was not supporting, excusing or agreeing with Republicans, I was specifically hitting the points that educated and motivated Putin to analyze and construct this serendipity (several pro Russia/Putin results from one campaign).The items that motivated Putin came from the Marxist Rats, so I specified them and ignored the Republicans.

Remember, Russia went from weak to strong, from obtuse to cunningly clever, in order to accomplish assisting in our crash in world influence and respect.

Putin saw that America's worst enemy was the Obama Socialist DemoRats, so he helped them help him. That's why Putin endorses Obama and always will.

20 posted on 04/19/2013 8:15:29 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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