[pabianice]

Was reading the background of Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country. Seems Roddenberry had by then become demented and demanded that the final cut be changed to his specifications. Two days before he died he filed a suit against Paramount to be given complete control of the final cut plus big financial damages. His death ended the suit.

My gripe with the Abrahms version of ST is that it is all FX, 2-dimensional characters, and stupidity after plot stupidity. Just bad writing. IOW, ST movies have been reduced to just big video games. And another excuse to use theater mega-bass speakers to rattle your teeth.

[agere_contra]

2-dimensional characters, and stupidity after plot stupidity.

Agreed! Hopefully they've hired a writer for this sequel.

[Andrei Bulba]

Sorry to disagree but your analysis is shallow.

The new Star Trek was brilliant, he recaptured the original characters dead on and in some cases upgraded them as in Uhura.

There was so much homage to the ST series and movies, it was incredible. Even Spock becoming an “endangered species” as a hat tip to Leonard Nimoy’s save the whales work in real life.

It was a masterpiece, and to say the scripts for the original series or movies were all that deep would be a stretch, with notable exceptions.

As for the action and FX, hell yeah! That was one fast paced, clever, fun ride.

[brownsfan]

“My gripe with the Abrahms version of ST is that it is all FX, 2-dimensional characters, and stupidity after plot stupidity. Just bad writing. IOW, ST movies have been reduced to just big video games. And another excuse to use theater mega-bass speakers to rattle your teeth.”

We all have our own tastes, but I disagree. Once I got past the weirdness of the reboot idea, the characters grew on me. Kirk is much deeper than in TOS or the movies. Spock is much more human, and developed. I like the new Kirk... a slightly troubled, genius bad/good guy. The new McCoy is interesting, etc.

I like it, I’m looking forward to this release.

[MeganC]

I enjoyed the new ST movie for the simple reason that it blew away the whole fanboy culture that was restricting and stifling the franchise. How could anything exciting or original come out of that ST universe when it was so constrained by rules that were enforced by pimply-faced, overweight eunuchs who live in their mother’s basements?

Abrams breathed a new life into the franchise and allowed what was old to be new again. Now we can see the original and beloved characters in completely new adventures with unlimited possibilities.

I look forward to seeing this film in IMAX and the fanboys can go find a corner of the next ST convention to argue about it.

[fr_freak]

My gripe with the Abrahms version of ST is that it is all FX, 2-dimensional characters, and stupidity after plot stupidity. Just bad writing. IOW, ST movies have been reduced to just big video games.

Agreed. The reboot had more than a few groan-worthy moments, in terms of plot holes, ridiculous coincidences (oh, look, there's old Spock! Oh look, there's Scotty!) and bad physics. The original series at least made some attempt to provoke thought. This movie was just another high-action, glitz-fest made for dumbed-down kids.

Still better than the Star Wars prequels, but that's not saying much.

Here are a couple of links people which might give people a good perspective on the movie:

the physics of the Star Trek reboot

redlettermedia.com review of Star Trek reboot

[1010RD]

Yep, plus what kind of Federation depends on a twenty-something for salvation?

Dumb plot, unidimensional characters (a second dimension is too much to ask for from Abrams), but loads of action and over-the-top CGI.

For $1.00 I’ll rent it on a night I don’t feel like thinking.