Posted on 04/16/2013 7:05:13 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
There's a real stigma associated with people who have been out of work for more than six months or those who are prone to job hopping.
To find out how hiring managers view these candidates, economist Rand Ghayad conducted an experiment where he sent out 4,800 fictitious résumés for 600 job openings.
Ghayad found that managers would rather hire people with no relevant job experience than someone who's been unemployed for a long time or has had several jobs in a short period of time.
The resumes sent out described candidates looking work for different reasons across several industries, but all were all male, had racially ambiguous names and similar education backgrounds.
Below is a chart from the paper illustrating how little it matters if you have experience in the industry you're applying for because "the first thing employers look at is how long you've been out of work, and that's the only thing they look at if it's been six months or longer," writes Matthew O'Brien at The Atlantic.
(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...
My son came back from his second deployment in the Middle East and started looking for work. During the last year, all he has been able to find is being a security guard - and he’s limited to 30 hrs/week to prevent benefits from kicking in.
I’d argue most guys who have two combat tours have a reasonable work ethic. He has a wife and kid to take care of, so he’s motivated. But he’s still working part-time as a security guard because it is all he’s been able to find. And I suspect that the longer he goes like this, the harder it will be for him to find full time work.
I cannot say the same. I even did some of the same after a long overseas assignment with money in my pocket and a house project to work on.
In hindsight, I didn't realize how hard it would be to get another job that year. My planned 4 week vacation turned into 3 months. I was not on unemployment as I had finished a contract, not a layoff.
Well, once the economy heals at all - if it ever does - people with military back grounds will be quick hires. I would say, for purposes of this discussion, that returning from deployment in the Middle East and leaving the military will not be looked at in the context of “unemployed” at all. All your son needs is a little economic common sense - or perhaps a change to venue. I can’t imagine he would stay unemployed long in the Dakotas, or Texas, or anywhere the energy complex is producing a good jobs environment. Not saying he should move necessarily, just saying he will be considered a good hire.
Having been laid off before, I could not find work in my existing field, so I took two part-time jobs to tide me over.
When I finally was able to interview in my chosen field again, the HR manager told me that my willingness to work (even two part-time jobs) shows that I am a dedicated worker - that was one of the reasons she called me in (and I got the job).
TYPICALLY, someone not working for 6+ months is not willing to work or simply not really looking to work.
Of course, there are exceptions in every situation, but there is work out there; maybe not your IDEAL job opportunity, but there is WORK to be done.
Lastly, job hoppers are usually seeking the next pay-raise, not a career with a company. Given time, opportunity and effort, most people would get that next pay-raise in short-order. But, those who job-hop have a tendency to not want to wait until the opportunity comes along.
They will ditch a company to claim a quarter an hour pay-raise, ignoring the comfortable work atmosphere, ignoring the free-time allowed, ignoring the benefits (paid and unpaid), ignoring the COMPANY - as a whole. So, yes, companies are leery of those who job-hop.
Having worked in HR, I can tell you that both of these trends are well-founded.
No kidding.
What is this culpability you accuse me of?
Now look, this thread is no place for common sense, experience, and airing of what we ALL KNOW inside about human nature. This thread is a place for faux conservatives to find their inner Occupy Wall Street and blame big bad free enterprise. Take your logic and wisdom someplace else!!!!
Well, nothing. But I might start now with paranoia.....
By law H-1Bs are to be paid the same as Americans.
The last paying position I held was lost to THREE H-1Bs. as a money saving move.
Do the math.
It’s the same when trying to decide on buying a house, if everything looks good, but it’s been on the market for a long time, you will wonder why it hadn’t been sold yet, so you figure, “why take a chance?”
Yep.
How do you prove it?
Always easier to find a job, when you already have one.
RE: It’s the same when trying to decide on buying a house, if everything looks good, but it’s been on the market for a long time, you will wonder why it hadn’t been sold yet, so you figure, “why take a chance?”
I guess it has a lot to do with the state of the economy.
Why take a chance? Well if everybody else is buying and prices are going up, then you’d lose out.
Same principle applies to hiring.... the good folks are snapped up.
Butt hen that depends on one assumption -— THE ECONOMY IS PICKING UP.
It clearly hasn’t been for over 4 years.
well, here is the deal, yeah hire who want, but have an idea of the greater good, it is not just a scramble, you are trying to influence for the good by having a good company with integrity, every person you are in contact with is in contact with at least 6 others, if you hire just some operator who will stay with you for a year and then move on because he is a careerist ooh, so “cool” where does that get you, if you hire someone who is simply building their resume, or if you hire someone who will actually appreciate the job because they know how vicious things are. Also, ask if you pay extra would they be willing to buy their own health insurance because I have an idea that is why these older folks are getting passed on, but the older ones are the ones with experience, who actually know how things work, remember how to work and not just screw around on the computer to make it look like they are working. Just something to consider.
and the legit reason is............................
that it is their own fault
Pray tell us what business you owned or ran
Again, I’ve told you people, quit bringing logic and common sense to this pity party. And now you’ve gone and added VALID ANALOGY! HOW DARE YOU. What, are you trying to actually shed some light?
It’s relative....let’s say I’ve got two potential candidates:
Candidate A: Out of work for only two weeks.
Candidate B: Out of work for six months.
Candidate B’s resume looks marginally better than candidate A’s.
Who do you hire, everything else being the same...both interviewed about the same, etc.
Not that it’s any of your business...but I’ve owned and run several, still to do a degree, but the main one regarding hiring, firing, etc was a contracting company in the SE US for about 22 years. Had as many as 150 employees at max, maybe just a little under that - as well as sub contractors and vendors.
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