Outlook Mail is new and from Microsoft is worth giving a try

self | April 11 2013 | Microsoft

[dennisw]

I have been testing it out. It is sleek and simple like Gmail but you won't be tracked by the Gmail/google system. It is new so is wide open for getting email addresses you want. For example:

vanhalen7@outlook.com should be available and same with freeper@outlook.com

Gmail has a 10Gb storage limit for mail but outlook mail has none as far as I can see. Also can send larger attachments. Outlook mail search (within mail) function works great.

http://pcworld.co.nz/pcworld/pcw.nsf/feature/webmail-war-gmail-vs-outlookcom-vs-yahoo-mail

[Bikkuri]

That is why I am on Linux
;)

[dennisw]

Thanks. How much does outlook mail track you??? You gave a good answer. I have flash blocked so at least I miss some advertisements i.e. brainwashing

[kingu]

Within 12 minutes of viewing an e-mail on an upcoming run I had registered for, advertisements started running for other runs. Within an hour of getting a message from my travel agent about a recent trip to Disneyworld, it seemed like every other advertisement on pages were screaming about huge discounts on reservations at Disneyworld. (that was actually what tipped me off...)

Cleared the cookies, went to the same site, and there were the standard generic advertisements. Went back to Outlook, then went to the same site, and once again, it was half a page full of Disneyworld advertisements.

It was pretty amazing, actually. Same computer, using gmail for years (booked the vacation, pictures, tons of activities scheduled using Google Calendar, used the android phones the whole time), but until that one message popped up on Outlook, rarely did I ever see a Disney advertisement except on forums related to Disney.

[zeugma]

Love the graphic. Microsoft-free for more than a decade

[Bikkuri]

Thank you :)

Wish I could say I made it.. I am good with graphics, but not THAT good ;)

[Windflier]

I love Thunderbird, but if you ever change your ISP, forget it. There goes your address.

It’s why I finally gave up and started using a Yahoo mail account. My address follows me wherever I move, no matter what ISP I have.

[oh8eleven]

I love Thunderbird, but if you ever change your ISP, forget it. There goes your address.
Not sure what you mean. You can change your email host from Gmail, Hotmail, Yahoo, etc., in TB as often as you want.
And even if you have more than one email account on different servers, you can add them all to Thunderbird.
All you have to do is create a new account for each one within Thunderbird that points to the new server(s).
Google "how to set up thunderbird for XXXXX" where XXXX is your email provider, and you'll find detailed set up instructions.
Setup a new TB account for each email address.

[rarestia]

Live.com replaced Hotmail. Outlook Mail is replacing Live.com. Live.com was Microsoft’s attempt at a drop-box type system with cloud storage. Outlook Mail is Microsoft’s Office 365 web portal for email.

Microsoft is trying to get into the “cloud” movement with much of their product. I actually have a meeting in an hour with Microsoft to discuss our corporation’s readiness for Office 365. I’m personally not a cloud fan, but most major companies are going toward an “always online” scheme with online licensing and access.

At stake here is Microsoft’s licensing monies and tracking of license usage. They can do away with User and Device CALs, they can do away with EAs (Enterprise Agreements), and they can do away with the MAP (Microsoft Assessment and Planning) tool for licensing “true-up” if they can get everyone hooked into the cloud for everything.

Think of it like we’re going back to the old “dumb terminal” days where a thin-net BNC cable connects you back to a server that validates your existence (licensing) and feeds you everything you need (applications) without having a CPU/memory/hard disk sitting right there with you.

It’s actually quite ingenious since a majority of users don’t require all of the horsepower in their machines. Instead, you build a hulking server that can offer services to clients with the only bottleneck being the network. Since most corporate environments are on GiB Ethernet anyway, bandwidth isn’t an issue and applications are run on the server with output at your desktop.

It’s already in place with products like VMware’s View system, it’s just becoming more mainstream.

[Windflier]

Not sure what you mean. You can change your email host from Gmail, Hotmail, Yahoo, etc., in TB as often as you want. And even if you have more than one email account on different servers, you can add them all to Thunderbird.

No, that's not what I'm talking about. It's when I've had to move my physical household, and have wound up with a new ISP where I've had problems.

In the past (admittedly a good number of years now), I've had to create a new email address after switching service providers. I wasn't able to keep my old email address when using Thunderbird.

With services like Yahoo mail, your account travels with you, regardless of who your service provider is. Are you saying that you can create a portable Thunderbird address now?

[oh8eleven]

Are you saying that you can create a portable Thunderbird address now?
I do not believe TB provides (or ever did provide)any email service like Yahoo, Gmail, etc. That is, no such thing as "my_email_name@thunderbird.com".
But even if they did, you would still access it from anywhere in the world just like you would for Gmail, Yahoo, etc.
Thunderbird is an email program just like Eudora or Pegasus. You tell it where your email provider is located (eg, https://login.yahoo.com/), the account info & password, and then TB will retrieve your mail.

[Windflier]

Thunderbird is an email program just like Eudora or Pegasus. You tell it where your email provider is located (eg, https://login.yahoo.com/), the account info & password, and then TB will retrieve your mail.

Then nothing's changed in the basic way Thunderbird functions since I last used it.

If I have to create a Yahoo email account, just so I can point it to a different email program, I may as well just use Yahoo for email. I don't see the point in using Thunderbird under that circumstance.

I liked using the program when I didn't use Yahoo, et al for email. Then, I simply pointed Thunderbird to my ISP and created my own email address@myisp.com

Thanks.

[oh8eleven]

If I have to create a Yahoo email account, just so I can point it to a different email program, I may as well just use Yahoo for email.
Yes, you're probably right - it's a personal choice.
I use T/W Roadrunner for email ... five accounts. I also have an email address in conjunction with my website host, plus a Yahoo email account.
I access all seven accounts via Thunderbird.

[Windflier]

I use T/W Roadrunner for email ...

I could have that too, but knowing that we'll probably move our household again this year, I won't bother to set it up because the email address won't be portable.

I suppose once we finally get settled for the long term, I may use Thunderbird for email again. I really liked it when I was using it. Much better than Yahoo or Gmail.

[ducttape45]

Except that there is no way to migrate email from Thunderbird to Outlook for those of us who decide Thunderbird isn't as easy to use as Outlook.

No offense.....

[for-q-clinton]

There is 0 limit on the email storage! That alone makes it worth it. Add in the better rules, non-spying google, alternate email addresses, and more—it’s the clear choice for free email.

[oh8eleven]

Except that there is no way to migrate email from Thunderbird to Outlook ...
I've never used Outlook so I can't comment on its importing capabilities. But TB saves your email on your hard drive so it's probably do-able.
Try this How to Get Thunderbird Email Messages Into Outlook.
You can get your Thunderbird Name & Address Book into Outlook by exporting it from TB as a CSV file ... then importing it into Outlook.

[dennisw]

There is 0 limit on the email storage! That alone makes it worth it. Add in the better rules, non-spying google, alternate email addresses, and more—it’s the clear choice for free email.

Also you can send larger attachments (I think)     My gmail box is 50% full

And yes....the field is wide open for signing up for outlook.com email addresses. I snagged a few I thought would be much more difficult. MS says go to your email address once a year or they may put in storage

[ducttape45]

That’s an interesting way of doing things. Gonna have to bookmark that!

[stuck_in_new_orleans]

I’ve been using it. Liking it a lot.

[dennisw]

outlook mail is the bomb!