Posted on 04/04/2013 1:47:57 PM PDT by virgil283
"I am from Bosnia. You know, between 1992 and 1995 it was hell. For one year I lived, and survived, in a city with 6000 people, without water, electricity, gasoline, medical help, civil defense, distribution service, any kind of traditional service or centralized rule.
Our city was blockaded by the army and for 1 year life in the city turned into total crap. We had no army, no police, we only had armed groups – those armed protected their homes and families.
When it all started some of us were better prepared, but most of the neighbors families had enough food only for a few days. Some had pistols, a few had AK47s ( ) or shotguns.
After a month or two gangs started operating, destroying everything. Hospitals, for example, turned into slaughterhouses. There was no more police.......
(Excerpt) Read more at sovietoutpost.revdisk.org ...
The city was divided into communities along streets. Our street (15-20 homes) had patrols (5 armed men every week) to watch for gangs and for our enemies.
2. What about wood? Your home city is surrounded by woods, why did you burn doors and furniture?
3. What knowledge was useful to you in that period?
4. If you had 3 months to prepare now, what would you do?
5. What should you stockpile? depends. If you plan to live by theft – all you need is weapons and ammo. Lots of ammo.
9. What about security? Our defenses were very primitive
Compare and contrast to Selco...
I won't.
Good advice.
Let’s not forget what happened in California after their AW ban and registration scheme was put into effect.
A 911 call was received from some home. A quick look at records showed the HOUSE ACROSS THE STREET had a registered AW. The police then moved on that house, secured the AW, then moved on the house where the 911 call came from.
Wow. Depressing read.
—— Families and groups, well-prepared, with skills and knowledge in various fields –that’s much better. ——
I’ve been predicting the return of the clan.
Yes. I personally traded all the gold in the house for ammunition.
I plan to be a Selco and lock my door and stay in my house and little back garden as no one can see in there. My clothes will be a pair of jeans and shirt, all well worn, not fancy, and I'll wad them up before putting them on, so they will have wrinkles.
One should picture in his/her mind what a person would look like who has nothing - and look like that in case one is seen by others.
Ok, flame me if you will, but Bosnia and Argentina are NOT the USA. Yes, there will be parts of the US that will be like Bosnia and Argentina at times, but what happens here will have a distinctly different flavor.
For comparison/contrast with Selco (((ping)))
No flame, just comparison.
Some of our cities are already like Sarajevo today. Post-event, the cities will be like amoebas, extending out toward the hinterlands.
My hope is, they just eat each other, and leave America alone.
Preppers’ PING!!
You burn doors and furniture because it's hard to cut down a tree--harder than you'd think, especially if you're an urban-dweller who doesn't have experience at felling trees and doesn't have a long-bar chain saw with gas to run it.
Then you have to cut it up, drag each length home, and split it. A man can hold only a few logs in his arms, and is vulnerable while he's trying to transport those. While he's carrying each individual log home, the other vultures descend and make off with the rest of the tree.
If bad things happen here, I expect the local woodlands to be promptly denuded by idiots who don't know you can't burn green wood. In hard times people go into the nearby nature preservers to cut down small Christmas trees, so imagine what they'll do when they're actually cold and their kids are hungry.
When the Great Depression hit, most of the people in the US lived on farms and knew how to take care of themselves. Their houses weren't built out of Styrofoam, baling twine, Elmer's glue, and spit, as our are today. They had some idea of how to hunt, and there just weren't as many people competing for the same resources. This is going to be just terrible, folks.
Hail Sarge, I read you. But the upcoming collapse will be so different here in the USA, even in the Sunshine State compared to other states. I pity the fools in the inner-city because of the riots and looting. But what we are talking about is speculation and supposition.
By the time the newly formed gangs from the 'hood start raiding outer areas like your area, the grocery stores will have armed security detachments at their stores. It will be amazing (not) how these gangs wither away once the see a bunch of pissed-off citizens with guns. Neighborhoods will be on the lookout. Rednecks will be valued for once. All in all it will be dynamic and fluid. But we will survive.
“2. What about wood? Your home city is surrounded by woods, why did you burn doors and furniture?
You burn doors and furniture because it’s hard to cut down a tree—harder than you’d think, especially if you’re an urban-dweller who doesn’t have experience at felling trees and doesn’t have a long-bar chain saw with gas to run it.
Then you have to cut it up, drag each length home, and split it. A man can hold only a few logs in his arms, and is vulnerable while he’s trying to transport those. While he’s carrying each individual log home, the other vultures descend and make off with the rest of the tree.”
Don’t you have to let the freshly cut wood dry too, before you can burn it? (And that takes weeks, if not months.)
Nevertheless it won't be tasty.
More like 18 months, once it is split and stacked in a sunny spot.
Or, the gangs will get better organized, better armed, and aggressive. That school of thought is out there, too.
I don't usually follow James Wesley COMMA Rawles, but this was a VERY good article that someone contributed.
I came across this blog and urge EVERYONE on this thread to read it! No, I am not “blog pimping”.
http://bayourenaissanceman.blogspot.com/2008/08/lessons-learned-from-hurricanes-katrina.html
BTW, FReepmail...
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