[ConservativeMan55]

Ping!!

[RegulatorCountry]

Is Damascus an uninhabited heap of rubble? No? Then there’s your answer.

[ex-snook]

Looks like the seed of Abraham is spreading to another nation, whoever wrote that.

[null and void]

Damascus is still a city. Assad may or may not have been shot (I have heard both ways).

I’d say not yet.

[wideawake]

Damascus is still a city, and it is has been a very long time since it has been a kingdom.

One might argue with equal justice that Isaiah 17 had been fulfilled in 636, when the Muslims conquered Damascus from the Byzantine emperor.

Or in 750, when the Abbasids reconquered it from the Rashids.

Or in 878 when the Sultan conquered it from the Abbasids.

I could go on, but the city has been sieged, conquered and reconquered a dozen times or more since the time of Isaiah.

I don't see how Sunnis seizing the city from the Alawites is any more of a fulfillment than these many previous incidents.

[what's up]

Why would you think this would be the fulfillment as opposed to any other time Damascus has been invaded?

Just because it’S during your lifetime?

[FutureRocketMan]

If Damascus, and Syria as a whole, are utterly destroyed, as Berlin and Dresden were in the bombing raids of WWII, then i would say that this prophecy would be fulfilled. However, it is entirely possible, since i am not a student of ancient Mid-East history, that this prophecy has already been fulfilled. I am not sure.

[mbarker12474]

Makes more sense that Isaiah 17 refers to the takeover of Syria and Israel by Tiglath-pileser and Shalmaneser. 2 Kings 15:29 and 2 Kings 17:6.

The northern kingdom inhabitants were gathered like corn and removed to Assyria and parts unknown. Is 17:5.

See Barnes’ commentary, e.g.,:
http://barnes.biblecommenter.com/isaiah/17.htm

[BubbaBasher]

For those that haven't momerized the Bible"

1. The burden of Damascus. Behold, Damascus is taken away from [being] a city, and it shall be a ruinous heap.
2. The cities of Aroer [are] forsaken: they shall be for flocks, which shall lie down, and none shall make [them] afraid.
3. The fortress also shall cease from Ephraim, and the kingdom from Damascus, and the remnant of Syria: they shall be as the glory of the children of Israel, saith the LORD of hosts.
4. And in that day it shall come to pass, [that] the glory of Jacob shall be made thin, and the fatness of his flesh shall wax lean.
5. And it shall be as when the harvestman gathereth the corn, and reapeth the ears with his arm; and it shall be as he that gathereth ears in the valley of Rephaim.
6. Yet gleaning grapes shall be left in it, as the shaking of an olive tree, two [or] three berries in the top of the uppermost bough, four [or] five in the outmost fruitful branches thereof, saith the LORD God of Israel.
7. At that day shall a man look to his Maker, and his eyes shall have respect to the Holy One of Israel.
8. And he shall not look to the altars, the work of his hands, neither shall respect [that] which his fingers have made, either the groves, or the images.
9. In that day shall his strong cities be as a forsaken bough, and an uppermost branch, which they left because of the children of Israel: and there shall be desolation.
10. Because thou hast forgotten the God of thy salvation, and hast not been mindful of the rock of thy strength, therefore shalt thou plant pleasant plants, and shalt set it with strange slips:
11. In the day shalt thou make thy plant to grow, and in the morning shalt thou make thy seed to flourish: [but] the harvest [shall be] a heap in the day of grief and of desperate sorrow.
12. Woe to the multitude of many people, [which] make a noise like the noise of the seas; and to the rushing of nations, [that] make a rushing like the rushing of mighty waters!
13. The nations shall rush like the rushing of many waters: but [God] shall rebuke them, and they shall flee far off, and shall be chased as the chaff of the mountains before the wind, and like a rolling thing before the whirlwind.
14. And behold at eveningtide trouble; [and] before the morning he [is] not. This [is] the portion of them that spoil us, and the lot of them that rob us.