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Cyprus told: take bank levy or leave euro
The Guardian ^ | 3/24/2013 | Ian Traynor

Posted on 03/24/2013 5:15:07 PM PDT by Beave Meister

Wealthy Russians stand to lose billions of euros in Cypriot banks under draconian terms being hammered out on Sunday night in Brussels to prevent the Mediterranean tax haven becoming the first country forced out of the single currency.

Negotiations got underway amid a hardening of the stance held by the International Monetary Fund and Germany, who insisted that depositors must take the hit for bailing out the eurozone's latest crisis economy.

There were signs of panic in Cyprus as a €100 (£85) limit was imposed on ATM withdrawals, with more stringent capital controls to follow if a deal is reached.

The European Central Bank has threatened to cut off funds propping up Cypriot banks on Monday, precipitating the island's exit from the euro if agreement was not reached on Sunday night at the emergency meeting between eurozone finance ministers, the president of Cyprus Nicos Anastasiades, and the bailout troika of the IMF, European Commission and the ECB.

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KEYWORDS: atm; banks; billions; cypriot; cyprus; eruo; europeans; imf; liberals; money; russia; russianmob; taxes
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Take a haircut or scram......
1 posted on 03/24/2013 5:15:07 PM PDT by Beave Meister
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To: Beave Meister

They’ve been given an offer they can’t refuse.


2 posted on 03/24/2013 5:18:01 PM PDT by laplata
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To: Beave Meister

Scram doesn’t sound like such a terrible alternative, does it?


3 posted on 03/24/2013 5:21:48 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (()
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To: Beave Meister

How wars start...


4 posted on 03/24/2013 5:22:35 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: Beave Meister

But not the bond holders. What gives? The depositors accounts were insured. At least split it with the bondholders. Something stinks here. Russian mafia money has become the “tax the rich” target here and the hapless Cypriots are caught in the crossfire. They can go ahead and clip the Russians but I wouldn’t want to be at the next Davos meeting. Something may go boom.


5 posted on 03/24/2013 5:24:03 PM PDT by BipolarBob (Happy Hunger Games! May the odds be ever in your favor.)
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To: 2banana

Well, yes. People don’t realize how many war hawks are in the EU’s ranks of elites.


6 posted on 03/24/2013 5:24:11 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Beave Meister

Go back to the previous currency, the Cyprus pound or Lira.

A couple of years ago in Italy, I noticed that the check was in Liras and Euros. Talking to an engineer on a train, he said he had lost roughly 50% of his buying power. Not exactly a great selling point.

I kind of liked the Lira, it was cool spending 600,000 Lira to equal about $200.00 dollars.


7 posted on 03/24/2013 5:28:16 PM PDT by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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But not the bond holders.

How about the shareholders in the company? The stock should be canceled and the company recapitalized before a single penny is lost by the shareholders. By not paying the account holders the bank has admitted they are bankrupt. (that is assuming they are privately owned. Kind of hard to go officially bankrupt if you are owned by the government.)

8 posted on 03/24/2013 5:36:00 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Choose one: the yellow and black flag of the Tea Party or the white flag of the Republican Party.)
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The bank’s bonds are guaranteed by the ECB, so you know they won’t be giving themselves a haircut.


9 posted on 03/24/2013 5:43:25 PM PDT by pingman (Trust a lib? Surely you jest!)
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To: BipolarBob

Remember, the depositors were “insured”, but only by the Cypriot government.

Every sovereign state insures the depositors at institutions in their borders. There is not cross border deposit insurance.

That’s why these bank accounts had the interest rates they did.

And of course, when you’ve stolen the money in the first place, being a Russian government official, anything you get to keep is an infinite return. They are the scum of the earth.


10 posted on 03/24/2013 5:49:08 PM PDT by babble-on
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To: pingman

So are deposits up to 100,000 Euro.


11 posted on 03/24/2013 5:51:37 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Beave Meister
Tell the EU...FUEU.

Cyprus has a reputation to defend and if it illegally confiscates a significant percentage of deposits...it will collapse.

Goodbye deposits, goodbye investors, goodbye banks...goodbye country.

This is the first domino in the interconnected failure of socialism.

Let it fall!

12 posted on 03/24/2013 5:54:52 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (Get armed, practice in the use of your weapons, get physically fit, stay alert!)
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To: BipolarBob

Deposits are guaranteed up to 100K of Euros...not all deposits.


13 posted on 03/24/2013 5:57:32 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (Get armed, practice in the use of your weapons, get physically fit, stay alert!)
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To: babble-on
"They are the scum of the earth."

Armed and motivated scum of the earth.

14 posted on 03/24/2013 6:01:32 PM PDT by BipolarBob (Happy Hunger Games! May the odds be ever in your favor.)
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To: 2banana

Yeah, I reflected on this crisis about how the English Civil War, Revolutionary War and French Revolutions all started because the respective governments started brazenly engaging in illegal taxes and theft of their subject’s money to pay for their own profligacy.
And these struggles where against Kings who had previously been held in high regard by subjects who had known no other system of Government. Brussels has no such emotional or spiritual connection with the people it rules over. They really are pushing their luck when it comes to overvaluing how desperate the people’s of Europe are to have them as their overlords...


15 posted on 03/24/2013 6:06:48 PM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: faithhopecharity
Scram doesn’t sound like such a terrible alternative, does it?

Heck no. All of our European ancestors made the decision to scram. And it was a good one considering what happened in Europe during the 1800's and 1900's.

16 posted on 03/24/2013 6:10:34 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: KarlInOhio
"How about the shareholders in the company?"

This too big/important to fail meme is failure itself.

17 posted on 03/24/2013 6:13:22 PM PDT by Paladin2
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The EU agrees to bail them out tonight. Nothing to see here with stock market rally monday. All is well!! sarc.


18 posted on 03/24/2013 7:06:45 PM PDT by Orange1998
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I heard the deal is to be a 40% haircut on deposits over 100k euro.


19 posted on 03/24/2013 7:15:57 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: EEGator

The thieves are going to need serious security for a LONG time.


20 posted on 03/24/2013 7:30:57 PM PDT by Paladin2
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