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Vanity - Sen Ted Cruz is natural Born Citizen!!!

Posted on 03/06/2013 1:26:12 PM PST by Perdogg

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1 posted on 03/06/2013 1:26:16 PM PST by Perdogg
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To: Perdogg
I'll vote for Cruz in a heartbeat. Scott Walker let me down with obamacare and so did Rand Paul with Hegel, but the latter is earning back my respect with the filibuster.

Cruz/Rand 2016

2 posted on 03/06/2013 1:28:59 PM PST by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: Perdogg
You only need one now. Ubama set the precedent.
3 posted on 03/06/2013 1:30:53 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("Somebody has to be courageous enough to stand up to the bullies." --Dr. Ben Carson)
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To: Perdogg

Interestinger and interestinger. (Or more and more interesting for the grammar nazis.)


4 posted on 03/06/2013 1:32:34 PM PST by MestaMachine (Sometimes the smartest man in the room is standing in the midst of imbeciles.)
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To: Perdogg

If this turns out to be the case, Cruz would be at the very top of my list of favored candidates. He has the guts, the communication skills, and the experience to run a great campaign and be a great leader.


5 posted on 03/06/2013 1:33:14 PM PST by ilgipper (Obama supporters are comprised of the uninformed & the ill-informed)
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To: Perdogg

The birthers will disagree.


6 posted on 03/06/2013 1:34:54 PM PST by FewsOrange
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To: Sirius Lee

Yeah, Walker’s “inner Wisconsin liberal” will pop out at the darndest times....so he’s great for Wisconsin, but he ain’t the national answer. Cruz on the other hand....no inner Wisconsin liberal inside that man I’m fairly sure.


8 posted on 03/06/2013 1:39:06 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: FewsOrange

It would help their case if they would do 2 things:
A: get someone of the ilk of Cucinelli or Levin to EVER agree with them on NBC status......and
B: Quit muddying up the issue of NBC and the place of birth of the actual person in question.


9 posted on 03/06/2013 1:41:12 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: Perdogg
Satisfies me, but not going to satisfy the birthers. Birthers maintain that in order to be a NBC, you have to be born IN the U.S. to parents who are both U.S. citizens at the time of your birth.

According to birthers, Cruz fails the criteria on two accounts. 1) Only his mother was a U.S. citizen at the time of his birth. His father was a Cuban immigrant to the U.S. 2) Cruz was born in Calgary, Alberta, Canada - his parents were there on business with the oil business.

IBTZ (of the birther entourage).

10 posted on 03/06/2013 1:42:12 PM PST by randita
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His path to citizenship pretty much finishes him.


11 posted on 03/06/2013 1:48:30 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

One only needs to be born a U.S. citizen rather than have to be naturalized as a citizen.

That has always been the rule as the Constitution only mentioned or envisioned THREE types of U.S. citizen.

One type were those who were citizens at the time of the adoption of the Constitution. They are all dead.

Currently there are only TWO types of U.S. citizen - those who were born U.S. citizens and those who had to be naturalized as citizens.


12 posted on 03/06/2013 1:49:04 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: Perdogg

He was indeed a US citizen at birth, but did he claim to be ‘natural born’ as well?


13 posted on 03/06/2013 1:50:14 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Sirius Lee
Scott Walker let me down with obamacare

In what way?

14 posted on 03/06/2013 1:50:33 PM PST by Jean S
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To: allmendream

Being a natural born citizen used to require having both parents be US citizens.


15 posted on 03/06/2013 1:52:35 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("Somebody has to be courageous enough to stand up to the bullies." --Dr. Ben Carson)
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To: randita
McCain was not born in the USA and he is a natural born citizen according to U.S. law, and according to Vattel - the ultimate authority according to some.
16 posted on 03/06/2013 1:53:16 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: allmendream

That’s a nice spin for the pro-Rubio, Jindal, Cruz types, but it is at least open to debate, considering that the language used in the Constitution for only issue of the presidency fits with the higher standard that the term was commonly known to mean at the time.


17 posted on 03/06/2013 1:55:07 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker
Currently there are only TWO types of U.S. citizen - those who were born U.S. citizens and those who had to be naturalized as citizens.

Cruz was BORN a U.S. citizen. He was not naturalized at any point in his life.

18 posted on 03/06/2013 1:55:23 PM PST by randita
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To: randita

I did not write what you just quoted.

Yes, he was born a US citizen, but he does not appear to meet the standard of ‘natural born citizen’ as was used and applied at the writing of the Constitution.

I doubt it will be enforced, as Obama, at least by his public story of his origins, failed to meet it and is quite obviously holding office today—and I expect it’s just another bit of the Constitution that will be ignored.


19 posted on 03/06/2013 2:01:42 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

The term “natural born” applied to most of the founding fathers - they were “natural born” subjects of England - most of whom were NOT born in England. Obviously the term as they understood it did not include having to be born in the nation. According to English law birth place was not the primary consideration - as one Brit pointed out when people said he was Irish (he was born in Ireland) “being born in a barn doesn’t make one a horse.”.

The “higher standard” still applies just as when the Constitution was written - of the three types of citizen the Constitution establishes - naturalized citizens are excluded from the Presidency.

Is Sen Ted Cruz a naturalized citizen? No. He is not.


20 posted on 03/06/2013 2:05:02 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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