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To: TropicanaRose
Men are already able to have vasectomy operations, so this was the only thing I could come up with.

And women can get their tubes tied.... That solves nothing.

No, the idea is to embrace the whole "choice" mentality, arguments the pro choice crowd could hardly deny, but recognize it is fundamentally unjust to allow women their entire gestation period to decide whether or not to give birth, then cavalierly expect men to make that decision before there's even a pregnancy. Furthermore, it is unjust to require men to be financially obligated solely based on the decision she makes.

The answer is the "paper abortion" whereby a potential father could legally sign away all rights and responsibilities for the as yet unborn child.

If pro life women would get behind such an idea it would immediately garner the support of all the pro choice men, divide the pro choice camp, and ultimately lead to a return to a close approximation of the societal dynamic that made women protect their own chastity from the dawn of mankind.

29 posted on 02/02/2013 11:34:24 PM PST by papertyger
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To: papertyger

“Paper abortions” will keep the “hookup culture” intact.


30 posted on 02/02/2013 11:37:12 PM PST by thecodont
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To: papertyger

Thanks for the explanation on the men’s rights part of your solution. Care to elaborate on the “women need to stop thinking they are victims” part?

2 problems I see with this solution:

[1] Those who are pro-life are already accused of only being concerned about the baby before birth. I’ve had people tell me if I haven’t personally adopted a baby, I have no right to be pro-life. [My response - if I’m not willing to personally stand at the border with a weapon, have I no right to be pro-border security?] This stance of promoting a man’s right to sign away his responsibilities for an unborn child only gives them more ammunition to accuse us of only caring about the unborn babies.

[2] I don’t think the pro-choice crowd would have as much objection to your solution as you think - certainly not enough to abandon their support of abortion rights. Liberals are quite capable of advocating contradictory opinions at the same time: abortion? it’s my body! TSA groping or Mengelecare? your body is the government’s! They would just transfer the baby-daddy’s responsibilities to the government, which furthers the liberal goal of having as many people dependent on government as possible.


38 posted on 02/03/2013 5:53:52 AM PST by TropicanaRose
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