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AR-15 Rifle or the so-called "Assault Weapon" was not used in Newtown
MSNBC ^ | Dec 15, 2012 erroneous video report

Posted on 01/26/2013 3:13:31 PM PST by agondonter

Edited on 01/26/2013 3:25:39 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

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TOPICS: Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: ar15rifle; assualtweapon; banglist; guncontrol; newtown; notagain; sandyhook; sandyhooktruthers; secondamendment; tinfoil
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To: OCMike

Well thank God,....that easily clears that up. In a related message Paul Vance stated that pigs do fly regularly over Newtown, CT.


41 posted on 01/26/2013 5:01:22 PM PST by Doc Savage ("I've shot people I like a lot more,...for a lot less!" Raylan Givins)
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To: ohiobuckeye1997

No, it’s not. The conspiracy buffs keep reposting the exact same NBC video from over a month ago, without disclosing that it is old, retracted news, because they want to confuse people.


42 posted on 01/26/2013 5:05:10 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: wewereright

It might matter if the story was current and true, but it’s neither.


43 posted on 01/26/2013 5:06:08 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: butterdezillion

“Why would there be a rifle and 2 handguns? He can’t even carry all those at the same time.”

Well, that’s why they invented holsters and slings.

“Which one was he shooting with? What did the autopsies show?”

He used the AR-15 on the victims, and one of the handguns on himself.


44 posted on 01/26/2013 5:08:53 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: agondonter
What was his motive?

Why did he choose this target? (Don't give me gun-free zone...!)

Why did his mother own an AR-15? Can Ryan or Peter Lanza confirm this?

The Wall Street Journal sent reporters out to all firing ranges within 50 miles of Newtown. They could not find anyone who had ever seen her. Why?

May we see a morgue photo of the shooter naked showing his fatal wound? Why not?

Can we please see video from any recording device of his breach of the school? Why not?

Can we see actual time-stamped photos of the guns used as they were found and recovered on the floor of the school? Why not?

Did he also smash his cell phone? Did he often search the web on his cell phone(s) or phone anyone? Can we se the information? Why not?

Can we see autopsy photos of the children? Can we see autopsy photos of Lanza and his mother? Why not?

Can we see a list of prescription and non-prescription or illegal drugs found in his possession or in the house? Why not?

Can we see actual car registration documents for him. His mother. Christopher Rodia. Why not?

Can we hear actual interviews with the police who captured a man outside the school? Why not? Can they identify him? Why not? Can we speak to him? Why not?

Why did Wolf Blitzer conduct an interview with the 'Phelps' are actually 'Crisis Actors' hired and used by Homeland Security and FEMA?? Why were they there? What is their actual identity?

And three hundred million other questions I could think of/

Was he cremated or embalmed? Where is the body? What was the final disposition of the body? Was a box screen done??

When was the last time he was actually seen prior to the shooting? Can anyone testify they actually saw him or contact with him?

Oh, what's the use.

45 posted on 01/26/2013 5:18:50 PM PST by Doc Savage ("I've shot people I like a lot more,...for a lot less!" Raylan Givins)
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To: agondonter
What was his motive?

Why did he choose this target? (Don't give me gun-free zone...!)

Why did his mother own an AR-15? Can Ryan or Peter Lanza confirm this?

The Wall Street Journal sent reporters out to all firing ranges within 50 miles of Newtown. They could not find anyone who had ever seen her. Why?

May we see a morgue photo of the shooter naked showing his fatal wound? Why not?

Can we please see video from any recording device of his breach of the school? Why not?

Can we see actual time-stamped photos of the guns used as they were found and recovered on the floor of the school? Why not?

Did he also smash his cell phone? Did he often search the web on his cell phone(s) or phone anyone? Can we se the information? Why not?

Can we see autopsy photos of the children? Can we see autopsy photos of Lanza and his mother? Why not?

Can we see a list of prescription and non-prescription or illegal drugs found in his possession or in the house? Why not?

Can we see actual car registration documents for him. His mother. Christopher Rodia. Why not?

Can we hear actual interviews with the police who captured a man outside the school? Why not? Can they identify him? Why not? Can we speak to him? Why not?

Why did Wolf Blitzer conduct an interview with the 'Phelps' are actually 'Crisis Actors' hired and used by Homeland Security and FEMA?? Why were they there? What is their actual identity?

And three hundred million other questions I could think of/

Was he cremated or embalmed? Where is the body? What was the final disposition of the body? Was a tox screen done??

When was the last time he was actually seen prior to the shooting? Can anyone testify they actually saw him or contact with him?

Oh, what's the use.

46 posted on 01/26/2013 5:19:06 PM PST by Doc Savage ("I've shot people I like a lot more,...for a lot less!" Raylan Givins)
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To: agondonter

Perhaps this will help it is from the local newspaper:
http://www.newstimes.com/newtownshooting/article/State-Police-All-26-Newtown-victims-shot-with-4222299.php


47 posted on 01/26/2013 6:22:39 PM PST by mojo114 (Pray for our military)
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To: jjotto

“I believe the ME has made several statements concerning only .223 wounds to the victims”

Got a link for that???

There is a poster on this site that has info from an EMS person who said he saw a lot of 5.56 casings


48 posted on 01/26/2013 6:26:51 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

I doubt an ME could tell the difference between .223 and 5.56 wound, and not many could tell the brass without very close examination.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/medical-examiner-sandy-hook-victims-died-multiple-gunshot-211722237.html


49 posted on 01/26/2013 6:37:44 PM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
I care not what gun was found wear BUT just because there is a picture of someone pulling a shotgun out of a trunk floating around on the internet means two things. Jack and Shit.

Any of that footage can be faked OR substituted. At this point I don't trust anyone involved. It may have actually been a shot gun in the trunk but with Obama running the show I wouldn't believe anything he said even if Jesus rode up to my house on a bicycle and give me his official okey dokey.

50 posted on 01/26/2013 6:45:33 PM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: jjotto

Police and FBI should be able to tell the difference between .223 and 5.56, don’t you think???

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2012/12/live-updates-newtown-conn-school-shooting/

So we have a poster on this site claiming an EMS person said they were 5.56 and a reporter claiming law enforcement said they were .223


51 posted on 01/26/2013 6:47:25 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: Bratch
"Settling this should be easy....just release the autopsy report...

How can a report from a Government Lackey settle this. Sorry but I see know way any sane person could trust anyone from the Government who is involved with this case nor would I trust any civilians either.

An autopsy finding can be faked with the stroke of a pen. At this point I can see no way this matter is truly settled.

52 posted on 01/26/2013 6:50:01 PM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: agondonter
AR-15 Rifle or the so-called "Assault Weapon" was not used in Newtown

Are you Sandy Hook Truthers going to post this long-debunked crap every day?

God, you people are embarrassing.

53 posted on 01/26/2013 6:54:45 PM PST by Drew68
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To: Jim Robinson

Letting these conspiracy theorists run rampant is like letting Alex Jones stuff run. Which you don’t do.

For your consideration.


54 posted on 01/26/2013 6:58:37 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: RummyChick

Lessee, the rifle was a .223 Bushmaster, not a 5.56.

So... You’re saying an anonymous EMS person knows more than police and FBI forensic teams? Quite a talented person, I’d say.

BTW, 5.56 ammo should feed fine through a .223, at least ‘til the damage builds.


55 posted on 01/26/2013 7:00:15 PM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: jjotto

We have been over this on another thread.

That Bushmaster is made to shoot a 5.56

Jungletaping 5.56 on a regular .223 is not a good idea.

So it remains to be seen what this poster comes up with as it relates to the 5.56. He is not responding to my question.

There is some very interesting information about what went on in NJ and the initial claims about Adam Lanza.

His girlfriend is missing. Or would that really be Ryan’s girlfriend????

Initial reports said that Adam Lanza went to Hobeken and killed someone.

Funny how that now seems to be buried.

Let’s say your brother goes off and shoots a bunch of people.

Why should police be cordoning off where you live that night????? Sure they can get a search warrant. But doesn’t this look like more than a search?????

http://www.demotix.com/newtown-shooting


56 posted on 01/26/2013 7:16:57 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

Oh and can someone from Hoboken tell me what that is on the right side of this picture. The thing that looks like some kind of tank

http://www.newsday.com/topics/Hoboken


57 posted on 01/26/2013 7:20:30 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

58 posted on 01/26/2013 7:28:27 PM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: agondonter

“What difference, at this point, does it make?”.


59 posted on 01/26/2013 8:28:14 PM PST by Shellback Chuck
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To: Shellback Chuck
“What difference, at this point, does it make?”.

Yeh, Senators, it could have been the violent video that he was watching or maybe he was just out for a Friday morning drive and then decided to go over and kill some kids. What difference does it make at this point????

60 posted on 01/26/2013 9:09:34 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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