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To: discostu
They couldn’t remake WOK, in the timeline they’re either before the first episode of TOS or just about to hit the first episode. Kahn hasn’t even been found yet, much less dumped on a planet to get to have wrath.

The way you have a good Khan story is to start with the premise that in "Star Trek", Nero had a LOT of time (25 years) to plant all sorts of little grenades as backups in case Old Spock didn't come through the black hole with the Red Matter.

This would include doing a historical data dump on the Klingons, Romulans, and whoever else would see Kirk and crew as THE threat that needed to be eliminated. Remember that Nero knew who Kirk was ... was pretty freaked out by seeing "NCC-1701" emblazoned on the ship as it confronted him.

So in the new timeline someone (maybe a lot of someones) knows that Khan is pretty much the guy who came the closest to taking Kirk, etc, out of the picture permanently. So they find him, revive him, let him know what happened, give him a ship and send him off on his merry way.

The thing to bear in mind about the new timeline is that a BUNCH of stuff from the old timeline is still in motion and will still happen. The Planet Eater. V'Ger. The Whale Probe. The explosion of that Klingon moon. Not to mention all the stuff from all the other series (like, for instance, The Dominion has already been through the wormhole and in the Alpha Quadrant covertly for 200-300 years at this point - what do you think THEY do if they get their hands on a history of what's going to happen to them about 90 years down the road?).

Assuming that Old Spock hasn't said "screw the Prime Directive" and been mind-melding with anyone/everyone to disperse what he knows about the future, a heck of a lot of people would know that taking out Kirk/Co. is the key to taking out the Federation.
78 posted on 01/23/2013 8:14:41 PM PST by tanknetter
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To: tanknetter

Why would Khan believe Nero? And why would he care? In this time line Khan could use that information to go find a good place to settle, grow his power base. Maybe he becomes a threat to the Federation eventually, but it would be in basically a Second Eugenics War. Which could be cool, but would be nothing like WOK. Really the smart move for any of Kirk’s first time stream enemies if Nero tells them about it in the second time stream is to avoid Kirk not confront him, they already know they can’t beat him.

Prime Directive wouldn’t play into it, that’s just about not screwing with pre-warp cultures (at least TOS, TNG it became the excuse to not do anything). But logic would tell Spock telling people the future isn’t such a hot idea. It’s a different universe, there’s no Vulcan, things here will play out differently, also you can’t be sure that when people try to avoid problems from his timeline they won’t do worse things. Good stuff comes from hardship, war is a great source of invention.


82 posted on 01/24/2013 7:40:00 AM PST by discostu (I recommend a fifth of Jack and a bottle of Prozac)
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