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Delta offers new service for musicians: complimentary guitar crushing
msn.com ^ | 1-7-13 | Turbo Zamboni

Posted on 01/07/2013 6:45:47 PM PST by TurboZamboni

Dave Schneider's vintage Gibson guitar was worth close to $10,000. Thanks to Delta, it's now worth considerably less. Schneider, lead singer of the hockey-themed band The Zambonis, begged airline staffers to let him carry his 1965 Gibson ES-335 onto the plane, even offering to buy a separate seat for the guitar. Delta refused, forcing him to check it. When he reached his destination, he heard a "crazy sound [of] metal on metal," and you know this story is going to end poorly, right? That was the sound of his guitar being crushed in a service elevator, sustaining almost $2,000 in damage. Delta said it "will be reaching out to the customer directly to discuss how we can make this right."

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Music/Entertainment
KEYWORDS: airlines; crush; dal; delta; guitar; zambonis
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To: fieldmarshaldj; mylife; Impy; Perdogg; AuH2ORepublican; BillyBoy

Was Kareem-Adbul Jabbar also present?

Were you touched in your “special” parts?

Did you sue the airline for million$?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQFxmAdyKcg


61 posted on 01/08/2013 5:40:25 AM PST by GOPsterinMA (Time to musk up.)
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To: RedStateRocker
Still, hope they take a lesson from previous incidents like this and realize that the bad buzz could cost them many many times the value of the guitar in bad publicity.

Delta doesn't give a rats butt about bad buzz. I run Triathlons and on one of the forums in less than a weeks time there were no less than 3 complaints about Delta destroying bikes. 2 were crated and one was hard shelled. These were not $89 walmart specials. The least expensive was $2000.00 the most was over 10,000.00. All three had been packed in Delta approved protective containers. Delta sux and doesn't care.

62 posted on 01/08/2013 8:15:02 AM PST by verga (A nation divided by Zero!)
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To: Norm Lenhart
But the last actual Gibson case I saw was little more than thick cardboard.

Some of the older cases are made of cardboard. One cardboard model was made for Gibson by Geib-Schaefer and called the Geib Economo.

Gibson now buys laminated veneer (plywood) cases from TKL, Ameritage, and perhaps other manufacturers. The cases are quite durable, but professional musicians may invest in a fiberglass Carlton case or a similar traveling case.

63 posted on 01/08/2013 11:57:51 AM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: rawcatslyentist
The pic showed a new deluxe gib hc

I'm curious. What leads you to think it's a new case?

64 posted on 01/08/2013 12:15:08 PM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Sorry. Read your later link about an Anvil case, so ignore my comment about investing in a traveling case like a Carlton.


65 posted on 01/08/2013 12:25:39 PM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: TurboZamboni

I seriously think airline staffers are in need of “stuck on stupid” avoidance training.

It is not even a safety issue.

ONE stuck on stupid employee has does destroyed their reputation. While one good deed accomodation would have not only won a customer for life but probably been a thank you shout out to some venue full of potential customers.

Plus imagin the PR if the Gutar was photographed alone belted into a first class seat.


66 posted on 01/08/2013 12:35:03 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: TurboZamboni

Is this the same guy who wrote a song about watching from the cabin as it was being crushed? That was a year, two, or three ago.


67 posted on 01/08/2013 12:39:55 PM PST by EnquiringMind
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To: Michael.SF.

That John Hiatt, he sure can write a ditty.


68 posted on 01/08/2013 12:44:35 PM PST by brewcrew
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To: longtermmemmory

They got more than one:

Marine double-amputee’s treatment on Delta flight angers other vets
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2968791/posts


69 posted on 01/08/2013 12:52:15 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: Norm Lenhart
What idiot moves that kind of guitar out of his house or off the stage without a real case..

But in a freaking bag? I’m sorry a piece of history was lost. But not for him.

Even many of the big stars leave their vintage guitars at home. They're just too valuable. For a fraction of the value of an authentic vintage Fender or Gibson, they can get factory custom shop instruments, handcrafted and faux-aged that look and play astonishingly close to the real deal.

70 posted on 01/08/2013 12:55:26 PM PST by Drew68
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To: Scoutmaster
That's the look/style of the high end Gib cases from the last 10 years. Be it LP SG or even Epi Casinos. Tan vinyl covered fiber/paste board, with amply padded form fitted satin coffin liner.

Here's a link to the pic. http://now.msn.com/delta-air-lines-crushes-vintage-gibson-guitar-of-musician-dave-schneider

71 posted on 01/08/2013 2:35:42 PM PST by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: rawcatslyentist
Nope. Except for some special models, the Gibson high-end cases from the past fifteen years or more are black, not tan and pink.

I collect (and buy and sell) guitars. I have a Lennon Revolution Casino that's in a tan and pink case, based on the '65 case that John Lennon had.

However, I've handled Gibson ES-339, ES-355, J-200, L-200, Hummingbird, J-45, Southern Jumbo, Les Paul, SG (Gibson and Epiphone), and Flying V guitars (as well as banjos and mandolins) over the last two decades, all of them in black cases.

Here's a recent J-45 case:

Here's a Custom Shop Les Paul case:

. . . and a SG case:


72 posted on 01/08/2013 2:59:52 PM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: rawcatslyentist
As far as I know, Gibson currently buys its cases from TKL and Ameritage. They're not paste board - they're layered veneer (plywood). At least all of mine are.

I play with somebody who has a '52 or '53 D-45 (which he bought in '52 or '53). In that era, Gibson was buying its cases from Geib & Shaefer and Lifton. The tan and pink is most connected with Lifton cases. Some of the G&S and Lifton cases Gibson sold during that era, like Geib's Mastercraft line, were three-ply plywood. G&S had a chipboard line called the Geib Economo, which Gibson sold.

73 posted on 01/08/2013 3:10:08 PM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: rawcatslyentist

I checked a couple of guitars and I believe I’m wrong about fifteen years. I think Gibson switched to black cases around 2002-2003.


74 posted on 01/08/2013 3:27:29 PM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: Scoutmaster
I personally don't own any Gibs. The last two I've seen friends buy were a JL Casino, and a SG gold, both had the tan cases.

Vintage schmintage, the casino plays ok, but the old tuners aren't for spit. The SG is decent, still not worth the $$$ though.

I've got a tricked out Daisy rock MoJo JoJo Monkey that can shred that ancient stuff at one tenth the price.


75 posted on 01/08/2013 3:38:23 PM PST by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: rawcatslyentist
That makes sense.

The John Lennon Casino was offered as an 'exact replica' of Lennon's 1965 Epiphone Casino, including a 1965 tan/pink case with pink shroud. Note that the damaged guitar was also a '65, so its case would have been tan/pink as shown in the photo and video.

The Lennon Casino was available in a sunburst, which had the original (terrible) tuners, or in a plain, sanded finish, which had the replacement (Kluson?) tuners that Lennon put on it after he sanded the finish off the guitar.

The SG Goldtop was a limited edition model which was only available through Guitar Center and Musicians Friend, as far as I know. It, too, came with a special vintage case, as goldtops are associated with the 50s.

Standard Gibson cases are now black with no shroud.

76 posted on 01/08/2013 5:07:05 PM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: kabumpo

Sorry.
Cost of an upright bass of even merely decent manufacture ($10K-20K) versus a guitar of similar quality.


77 posted on 01/08/2013 8:52:06 PM PST by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, Deport all illegals, abolish the IRS, DEA and ATF.)
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To: mylife

No, I never liked it, my ears popped.


78 posted on 01/09/2013 11:25:02 PM PST by Impy (All in favor of Harry Reid meeting Mr. Mayhem?)
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To: RedStateRocker

Yes, I do know the difference between a bass and a guitar. I bought a 5/8th one that was excellent for $2,000.


79 posted on 01/10/2013 11:07:44 PM PST by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: kabumpo

Good score!

My baby is a Pollmann Busetto, 3/4. I have it insured for $15K. I saved for about 10 years to buy it. It would be nice to travel with it, but not very practical


80 posted on 01/11/2013 7:07:39 AM PST by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, Deport all illegals, abolish the IRS, DEA and ATF.)
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