Posted on 01/01/2013 8:49:29 PM PST by Artcore
Are You Going To Remain A Republican in light of today's gutless actions by both the Senate and House? This was the last straw for me; I'm done! I will be switching my party affiliation tomorrow.
Sometimes when I don’t know what to do, I think, what would my enemy want me to do?
Then I do the opposite.
Here is the truth: the liberal dems would like me to
1. convert and become a liberal dem, or if not;
2. get disgusted, quit working, quit donating, quit voting; or, if not
3. spend my time, energy, intelligence and votes on third party stuff.
So I am not going to do any of that.
What do they hope I DON’T do?
1. Spend my time, energy, money and vote in ways that EFFECTIVELY promote patriotic conservative values and constitutional adherence.
For some of us that may mean joining our central committee, or registering voters, or donating (to the right PAC or person), or volunteering, or even running for office. It may mean being a precinct captain, or a campaign manager. It may mean being willing to fight a losing campaign really hard, putting all you have into it; knowing that all the effort you put in made our adversaries work harder in our district and gave a victory to someone on our side a couple of counties over.
I don’t think it means taking our marbles and going home.
I pray your right and we have time left for that.
But what if we don’t my Friend?
There is a reason I haven’t been one for many, many years. Junk like this is one of the reasons.
Don't go back, don't support it. Don't enable it.
That's a start. Until you can do that, you are trapped in a repeating hell.
/johnny
центральные партии. Кто вы?Замполит?
I've had enough of central those, thank you.
/johnny
“But what if we don’t my Friend?”
Well, that is something we can’t know. No sense in choosing defeat though.
The GOP needs to go.
/johnny
Its a closed system here in PA so I can’t vote in a GOP primary as an indy.
I will stay Rep. and vote in primaries for conservatives but
I think conservatives need to start organizing a third party on the core principles of immediate smaller goverment-immediate balanced budget.
If a RINO gets past the primary the independent-Third Party candidate must be ready to run against him in the general.
We can’t send any more phony conservative RINO’s (90 percent plus of the Reps in Congress are) to Washington even if it means electing a Dem.
What the difference....They both take us in the same direction at different rates of speed.
The talk show hosts and others have kept us conservatives on the Republican plantation for quite a few years exploiting our fears and resentments, hatreds of Obama, Clinton, Pelosi, Reid etc. etc.
I can’t live that way anymore.
I really want smaller government and a balanced budget.
Guys like Paul Ryan and Pat Toomey never envisioned one until 10 years out in their plans, so how can I really support the GOP???
Underneath it all are powerful money interests that want bailouts and more debt to fight a losing fight against economic collapse.
They’ve bought the Republican Party.
NO MORE DEBT......ABSOLUTELY NO MORE DEBT......
I go back to the conversation Rush Limbaugh had with Ed Gillespie, GOP insider and then aide to President W Bush some years ago.
El Rushbo says cut the size of government, cut departments like education and energy.
Then Gillespie says “That’s not going to happen...”
Case closed.
I will not be a slave on the Republican Plantation anymore.....
Frack no.
good lord, that is a long list. When do you get to sleep?
In my state, Kentucky, you can not vote in Primaries unless you are one of the two major parties. Independents have no voice here, so unfortuntately, even though I would love to tell the GOP where to go, especially after the GOP fielded the biggest absolute disaster of a candidate for govenor the last go round, I’ll remain one. Conservatives chunking the GOP means that Romney-types will have even an easier time getting chosen in primaries.
Having said all that, my hunch is the time to effect anything at the ballot box has long since past.
I dropped my party affiliation during the lame-duck session in 2010 when the GOP knelt in surrender on the repeal of DADT and the ratification of New START.
And I`m not coming back.
[ Anything else is a Pyrrhic victory, where those leaving will definitely feel good, but would have a) no impact and b) just gave the Dems the perfect gift. ]
You seem to ignore what is actually going on.. Soon maybe already is that the republican party is almost totally RINOs. Ignoring that republicans are leaving the party in droves forces a false tactic.. They are leaving and more will leave.. and not a drip drip drip either..
The liberal forces are massive.. not just the President and Congress.. but the media, Unions(Police, Firefighters, teachers, and most all givernment workers [fed,state and local] ..).. Hollywood, Newspapers, Mags, TV, Cable, and not a small part of the internet.. Academia, other schools.. contractors and their minions..
It’s not just the republican party.. and voter fraud..
Crazy is doing the same thing over and over again expecting something to change.. Are you crazy?..
Course they are not all crooks.. just most of them are..
And most of them control the FBI, CIA, IRS, BATF, NSA, Secret Service, Military, Police, Firefighters, and other security organizations.. Its far worse than the republican party control..
SOMETHING MUST CHANGE........
Finally, I totally agree that the epitome of insanity is doing the same thing constantly while anticipating different outcomes. That's true. However, doesn't that apply to third parties as well??? Looking at the Libertarian Party, which is taken as a joke, or the Constitutional Party, which has even worse performance than the Green Party even, makes me wonder.
RINOs and Conservatives are, unfortunately, linked symbiotically. One cannot win without the other. The problem is that the RINOs have been driving everything for decades, and Conservatives have let it happen. What about taking over driving duties?
Now, I will be the first to say that might not be possible. The odds may be too potent. Maybe the reason the Tea Party storm was successful in 2010 is because the RINOs, and the LM in general, were simply not aware such a thing can occur and, now, they are ready to squish it in the bud. All that is possible.
All the same, I find it a whole lot less insane than starting (yet) another third-party, especially considering that the largest third-party (the Libertarians) couldn't even garner a single seat in the House or Senate, and the most conservative (the Constitutional Party) isn't even bigger than the (overtly) socialist/environmentalist Green Party.
What effect will starting another third-party have ...that is apart from a Pyrrhic 'feel good' while the LM goes from simply having persistence (due to it's control of media etc) to having pure dominance (due to diffusion of opposition)? I may be wrong (probably am), but I think controlling the RINOs seems like something that could work.
Nah, I won’t switch. My representative (Roscoe Bartlett) voted against the abortion. There are still some GOP with integrity.
Anybody in Ohio know a good primary opponent for Boehner?
Nah, I won’t switch. My representative (Roscoe Bartlett) voted against the abortion. There are still some GOP with integrity.
Anybody in Ohio know a good primary opponent for Boehner?
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