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To: discostu
I don’t see how the lefty thing matters.

At first glance I agree but statistically speaking lefty QBs don't seem to have the success in the NFL as right handed QBs. Some writers mention differences in ball trajectory when spinning clockwise versus counter-clockwise.

The trajectory of a left pitcher is certainly significant in baseball but for football receivers who instinctively expect a ball to behave according to the trajectory of a right handed thrower, adjustments will also be needed. Similarly, once the spinning ball contacts their hands, what I've read is that instinct has them pull it in in such a way that the counter-clockwise spin of a leftie can cause the ball to pop out. A pro level receiver should be able to make adjustments but it does appear from what I've read on the topic that they do have to make some adjustments for a leftie.

Receivers used to timing their route based on what they see of the QB's profile also have to adjust. An offensive line definitely has to adjust for a lefty QB whose blindside will be to the right. A formerly left tackle just can't be switched to right tackle because the QB is a leftie.

He’s accurate, or he’s not, he isn’t. Left handed, right handed, doesn’t matter

It's fun debating but something about lefty QBs causes them to be less represented in the NFL.

His team has only trusted him to throw 8 times this season, doesn’t matter which hand he’s NOT throwing with.

And one of those 8 throws was to a wide open receiver on a mid-route that hit him on the numbers and he dropped it.

No matter how you slice it that was a mismanaged draft.

At the time, I thought Tebow went too high and I based that on his poor senior bowl performance. He showed in the senior bowl that he could not go into any team, fit right in and lead them. A lot of credit goes to Urban Myer for designing an offense around Tebow. An offense that still prepared many players surrounding Tebow for success in the NFL.

And meanwhile they had Orton, who was statistically better.

In the immortal words of Al Davis, "Just win, baby". Orton while having better numbers didn't win.

The bean counters will tell you the Broncos always sell out. So he didn’t do anything for them there either.

Not entirely correct. I was thinking of some of the away games that sold out which otherwise would not have. it also appears that Bronco stadium concessions skyrocketed due to ticket holders who otherwise would not have shown up but did because of Tebow, or gave/sold their ticket to someone who showed up because of Tebow. Just the increased stadium concessions in 2011 appear to have covered most if not all of Tebow's salary for that season.

The Broncos are pocketing an extra few million dollars this season in concession and other spending thanks in large part to game-day no-shows shrinking from several thousand before the team's magical run to a few hundred during it, according to estimates.

http://www.denverpost.com/business/ci_19654087

And TV revenue comes from the NFL’s national contracts, doesn’t matter who’s on the field for that.

Because Bronco ratings soared, ad revenue to the league also increased, especially for the late game ad slots. Additionally, I may be mistaken but I thought there was something about there being less television revenue for games blacked out in local areas.

Licensing sales probably helped. But probably not the 11 million a year they paid him because they pick up a 3rd round pick in the 1st.

I don't believe they paid him $11 million per year. Maybe $11 million total including guarantees picked up by the Jets. If they paid him $11 million per year I would be more in agreement with you.

I think his base pay for 2010 and 2011 was in the $1-$2 million range. Compare that with his estimated $10-$20 million in license sales and he's looking like a pretty darn good investment.

Fan interest in Tebow may have generated $10 million to $20 million more in merchandise sales for the NFL, said Marc Ganis, president of Chicago-based sports consulting firm SportsCorp.

The Broncos, though, can reel in additional revenue through retail outlets, and the team operates two stores with third-party vendors.

A home playoff game could land the team a low-six-figure sponsorship deal tied to in-stadium giveaways.

http://www.denverpost.com/business/ci_19654087


72 posted on 12/22/2012 5:32:22 PM PST by fso301
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To: fso301

But again with his demonstrated complete lack of ability to read a defense pre-snap his trajectory doesn’t matter. He’s simply not good enough at the game for his handedness to be an issue. If anything it’s just another reason why he should stop trying to be a QB.

One of 8 passes being dropped doesn’t matter. The news is 8 passes. Even if they were all completions it’s still only 8 passes. If he was any good they’d be having him throw more.

But Orton’s lack of winning wasn’t on him. Again, the Denver defense shaved 15 points off their points allowed after Tebow started. If the Denver defense is playing that well in the beginning Orton goes 4-1. It’s easy to win football games when your defense is only allowing 13. It’s hard when they give up 29.

Away games don’t matter for revenue. The 20% of the non-luxury box gate that doesn’t go to the home team is pooled and split among the teams at the end of the year. Anything Tebow added to away game revenue got divided by 32, Denver probably didn’t make enough “extra” from Tebow to fuel up the plane for 1 trip home.

“Extra few million” minus an 11 million dollar salary equals at best zero. Had they waited until the second round they could have paid him half as much and still gotten whatever benefit he added to the take.

Broncos ratings don’t matter. The league makes 3.08 billion dollars a year on the TV contracts (which then gets divvyed up among the teams, in general the team portion is enough to pay the salary cap). Those contracts were span 2006 through 2013, they’ve already been renewed and in 2014 the league starts making 4.95 billion. Couple extra ratings points here or there for a Tebow game isn’t changing the revenue picture of the league or the team.

Understand an NFL team is a billion dollar enterprise. $10 million here or there isn’t changing anything. Especially not for a team like the Broncos. They’re one of the most popular teams in the league. Drafting Tebow was a mistake, he’s not a good player, he got the coach fired, and any monetary benefit is couch change for an NFL tea.


75 posted on 12/22/2012 6:09:26 PM PST by discostu (Not a part of anyone's well oiled machine.)
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