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Things that don't add up... (CT shooting)

Posted on 12/14/2012 11:24:47 PM PST by djf

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To: jazzlite
We have seen governments just days ago unleash marijuana on society.

Yes, we have. But keep in mind that on the form 4473 there is the (disqualifying) question regarding drug use. At present, there is no record of who bought or used what, with legal sales there could be.

Those who choose to avail themselves of that new ability will find their rights curtailed for having done so (cannot legally purchase a firearm).

While that won't stop all, it would make one think before taking up marijuana use, and might pose an unanticipated side effect for others.

However, I am every bit as concerned about the psychoactive drugs which are routinely prescribed for people who are let loose on their own to maintain their pharmacology when they might pose a credible threat.

121 posted on 12/15/2012 4:56:18 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: castlegreyskull

Anyone see the irony of the authors of death panels and infanticide legalization crying for kids killed at a school.

This is such stinking horsesheize.


122 posted on 12/15/2012 4:58:50 AM PST by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: bonfire

The name was not mentioned all through the day and into the evening yesterday, and is still a relative rarity in any mainstream news report, despite some accounts that had him being killed as well.

His name is Peter Lanza. Sites whose credibility might be deemed questionable claim he’s a partner with Ernst & Young in NYC as well as tax director for General Electric in Fairfield, CT.

Is this accurate? Powerful man moving in high level financial circles, if so. This is no middle class family.


123 posted on 12/15/2012 4:59:20 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: djf
If so, this would be a stunning percentage kill-ratio wise for the guy.

Perhaps it's easier to kill a 5 to 10 year old child with a gun shot than an adult.

124 posted on 12/15/2012 5:00:52 AM PST by luvbach1 (We are finished.)
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To: Northern Yankee

Anyone at this time talking disarmament and disarmament of the children while in care needs to be tried for complicitness in murders and aiding terrorism, period. We know there are murderers out there, we probably knew this dude was a threat, but we still act stupid and take no measure that the gun owners and self defense people advocate.


125 posted on 12/15/2012 5:02:37 AM PST by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: Arlis

Wasn’t the .223 left in the car?


126 posted on 12/15/2012 5:03:08 AM PST by Chipper (You can't kill an Obamazombie by destroying the brain...they didn't have one to begin with.)
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To: Twinkie
I’m just homesick for a more innocent time and place, I guess.

Me, too, especially considering I can't help raise my great-grand and grandkids there.

127 posted on 12/15/2012 5:04:44 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: All

it’s impossible to wrap our heads around this.

The only thing we can be sure of is that nothing we’ve been told through the trickle of tweets and “breaking stories” is accurate. The truth is that most of us are normal, rational people and we might not ever get an understandable reason for this because how can any of us understand the rational behind mass slaughter of five and six year old children at close range with handguns.
We might not ever really know because the answers won’t really ever be traceable to rationality.
What has happened to my country. Why do schools need to be armed guarded prisons?

We need to root out the secularists and stand up to the ACLU because they will be the death of us.


128 posted on 12/15/2012 5:10:00 AM PST by newnhdad (Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
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To: nolongerademocrat
I’ve never seen an autistic patient who would be capable of such a high kill ratio.

A 40 lb. kindergartener getting hit with a 9 mm slug is equivalent to an adult being hit with a 1 inch diameter slug. It's more deadly than normal.

129 posted on 12/15/2012 5:10:48 AM PST by Reeses
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To: JudgemAll
Yes sir.

The media doesn't seem to want to focus on personal responsibility anymore.

130 posted on 12/15/2012 5:12:20 AM PST by Northern Yankee (Where Liberty dwells, there is my Country. - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: djf
It was reported on the news earlier that the school had done a security update earlier this year or last year and that they DID install one of those buzz-in systems. So now there’s no lock on the school door?

So the son of one of the teachers shows up, says he has an important message for his mom, and he gets buzzed in.

Or a guy shows up, and says his family just moved in, and is here to register his kids, and gets buzzed in...

131 posted on 12/15/2012 5:13:03 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Northern Yankee
I have been lobbying to have a weapon on campus, so it at least gives us a fighting chance to protect the students.

It sounds cold of me to say so so soon, but that is the direction this has to be pushed.

America has tried the disarmed people zone thing at schools, theaters, malls, and the result invariably has been a target rich environment with little or no opposition for any demented malicious person who pops up.

We know no law can eliminate the guns in the hands of the determined. It has not worked anywhere it has been tried, even to the point of outright bans. Only letting people have a fighting chance to defend themselves and the innocents around them will mitigate the effects of the diabolical, not surrender.

It must be made unthinkable that anyone would even attempt (crazy or not) to harm such as those children--a swift and sure death would be assured.

132 posted on 12/15/2012 5:18:20 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: PapaBear3625

Fox News is reporting he did not get buzzed in but broke through the glass.


133 posted on 12/15/2012 5:18:34 AM PST by Blackirish (Forward Comrades!!!!!!!!!)
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To: djf

What happened to the body in NJ?
The girlfriend and friend that are missing?
Who was the man in the woods?


134 posted on 12/15/2012 5:20:22 AM PST by Chipper (You can't kill an Obamazombie by destroying the brain...they didn't have one to begin with.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

“Abstinence doesn’t work.”


135 posted on 12/15/2012 5:20:50 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: newnhdad

I liked your post that no....we really won’t be able to wrap our heads around this. And in regards to the ACLU Fox News is reporting the teachers and children who were locked down and waiting for help....said prayers.


136 posted on 12/15/2012 5:23:09 AM PST by Blackirish (Forward Comrades!!!!!!!!!)
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To: jazzlite
Would you put this past the present administration?

You know....you have to know they won't let any crisis go to waste, real or contrived.

137 posted on 12/15/2012 5:23:31 AM PST by Guenevere (....)
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To: Smokin' Joe

I am reminded of the movie “Telefon” 1977.

People programmed by a phone call to commit murder.

I am astounded that this 20 year old, mentally dysfunctional, could achieve such a high kill ratio.

And we, who know that the sitting duck routine has to go, and more school personnel need to be armed, cannot be silenced by the wave of anti gun stupidity that is already building. Especially by Dem mayors of cities where multiple people will die by illegal guns before Monday dawns.

We need to be very vocal.

This has happened too many times, in the same way.

Our children cannot be targets, And if the school systems will not protect, then we must.

The politicians and the school libs need to be told to shut up, sit down, and that they have failed once again.

There are evil people in the world, and only resolute force will or can stop them. Not wishful thinking, and certainly not disarming people.

That is why the schools are targets—no one expects armed resistance.That perception and reality has to change.


138 posted on 12/15/2012 5:26:23 AM PST by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: Blackirish

Yes I heard that too....Fox claims now that the perp broke glass to enter school

Considering this is the same media that fabricated evidence and continues to falsely report on the George Zimmerman case....there is no doubt that the media will continue to deliberately mislead, on the behalf of the Obama Admin


139 posted on 12/15/2012 5:26:29 AM PST by SeminoleCounty (Seems that the ones who understand little about the economy are economists)
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To: Quickgun
First find someone on heavy prescription doses of anti-depressants,and perhaps been a troublemaker already, and meet with him a few times, maybe give him some more drugs,and convince him what the nature of his problems are.

From Colorado to Connecticut, the shooters have been people on the edge of sanity or being treated for some psychological 'issue'.

I would think engaging these people with some 'friend', well versed in pharmacology and psychology, could yield (for their agenda and a failure) a suicide, or rampaging murderer who had been convinced that any given subset of the population was the enemy and the cause of all their troubles. With someone so unstable to begin with, programming in suicide, or the mere realization of what they had done might finish tidying up the crime.

I wonder if the mother knew of a contact who wanted to stay secret?

Tinfoil? Maybe, but the best defense this administration has had throughout has been the unthinkable size, scope, complexity, and nature of its crimes.

140 posted on 12/15/2012 5:30:26 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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