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Transmutation in LENR replicated. Note that the companies that are making the announcement(s) are not small, fly-by-night firms.

The possibility that LENR is fraudulent, or a result of error is now non-existent, and "the ducks are coming home to roost".

1 posted on 12/10/2012 5:50:19 AM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: Wonder Warthog

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2 posted on 12/10/2012 5:52:05 AM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: Wonder Warthog

http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/IwamuraYobservatiob.pdf

Link to the Mitsubishi research.

It should also be noted that the Toshiba work was reported at a meeting of the American NUCLEAR Society.


3 posted on 12/10/2012 5:54:33 AM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: Wonder Warthog

Academia is full of pc nonthinkers


4 posted on 12/10/2012 5:55:25 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Wonder Warthog; Kevmo

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5 posted on 12/10/2012 5:59:38 AM PST by SunTzuWu
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To: Wonder Warthog
Transmutation in LENR replicated

Or so they say.

The possibility that LENR is fraudulent, or a result of error is now non-existent,

The possibility that LENR is fraudulent, or a result of error is now exactly the same as it was before. UNTIL this is PUBLICALLY DEMONSTRATED it still just remains CLAIMS.

6 posted on 12/10/2012 6:04:00 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: Wonder Warthog

It is amazing that the global warming pseudo science gained wide acceptance despite strong evidence it does not exist and was based on manipulated data, while “ cold fusion” has far more credible research supporting it and has not been taken seriously.


8 posted on 12/10/2012 6:18:36 AM PST by The Great RJ
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To: Wonder Warthog
Only the very brave and eccentric have ventured out with Andrea Rossi leading the way.

You had me until this.
Andrea Rossi is a complete fraud.

10 posted on 12/10/2012 6:29:12 AM PST by Politically Correct (A member of the rabble in good standing)
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To: Wonder Warthog

It doesn’t inspire confidence when nuclear physicists mis-spell spell “length” in one of their figures.


11 posted on 12/10/2012 6:32:10 AM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (Obama being re-elected is the political equivalent of OJ being found not guilty.)
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To: Wonder Warthog

“The possibility that LENR is fraudulent...” - WW

The probability of fraud the same as it was. Check your logic.

Since some stock certificates are true and valid, are all stock certificates true and valid?

If presented with a stock certificate from BNY Mellon, do you treat it with the same precaution as you would from one claimed to be found in grandma’s safe? How would you treat one presented from a convicted forger?

The scientific process and search for truth is about independent verification. Trust nobody. Instead get their procedures and replicate the findings.


16 posted on 12/10/2012 6:50:48 AM PST by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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I have always been pulling for cold fusion ever since Pons and Flieshchman announced. I bought the Wall Street Journal the next day to get the details. I am surprised the Israelis have not been more active in cold fusion. They need the energy, they have the scientists, plus successful cold fusion marginalizes Arabs/Muslims who only have oil/gas to sell the world

Japan has few oil/gas resources so they should have always been pushing harder for cold fusion development....But now they are getting there with some heavy hitters


27 posted on 12/10/2012 7:18:24 AM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything)
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To: Wonder Warthog
Krivit reports Iwamura saying the Toyota researchers confirmed that nuclear changes from one element to another took place without the use of high-energy nuclear physics.

This in itself is pretty old hat. I was running these just last week as a demonstration lab for undergraduate physics students, transforming aluminum into silicon using the thermal neutron-induced n-gamma reaction. Thermal neutron capture by 235U or 239Pu involves low-energy particles but it liberates tremendous amounts of energy.

I know you know that but a lot of people will be taken by the claim "without the use of high-energy nuclear physics". Laymen reading an article like this will be impressed by that statement in and of itself, when they probably should not be. I'm not disputing any of the claims of the people involved here as I have not looked into it too deeply, but I'm just saying throwing around buzzwords and technobabble probably doesn't help their case.

31 posted on 12/10/2012 7:21:05 AM PST by chimera
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To: Wonder Warthog

I’m not sure I understand this concept, but I’ve wondered why used radioactive rods had to be stored away. IMHO, it seems that still “radioactive” energy may still be useful.

No?


32 posted on 12/10/2012 7:36:41 AM PST by wizr (Keep the Faith!)
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To: Wonder Warthog

This article is gibberish. The paragraphs appear to have been dropped in no particular order.


38 posted on 12/10/2012 8:06:15 AM PST by Tublecane
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To: Wonder Warthog
Paper issued, meetings held, conferences and “in depth discussions”, all are considered great progress but still nothing of use even on the most distant horizon.
And like the used car salesman, Rossi, without any cars to sell well hear of some great breakthrough consisting of nothing at all.

As a matter of research for its own sake, cold fusion passes the test, anything beyond that is obsessive hope.

And it's chickens that roost, not ducks.

40 posted on 12/10/2012 8:25:00 AM PST by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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Politics has caused profound damage to science many times before. Students should have it beat into their heads that consensus is NOT science, it’s politics.


43 posted on 12/10/2012 8:40:38 AM PST by TChris ("Hello", the politician lied.)
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48 posted on 12/10/2012 9:10:03 AM PST by ZX12R
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Iwamura spoke of the replication at the American Nuclear Society’s LENR session on Nov. 14th 2012 in San Diego. Krivit reports Iwamura saying the Toyota researchers confirmed that nuclear changes from one element to another took place without the use of high-energy nuclear physics.

This was a panel discussion sponsored by Krivit. It doesn't appear to be confirmed or peer reviewed in any way.

66 posted on 12/10/2012 10:24:12 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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Live LENR experiment being broadcast as we speak: http://www.e-catworld.com/2012/12/mfmp-to-launch-eu-test/


101 posted on 12/12/2012 1:18:32 PM PST by Normandy
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