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To: BillyBoy

As I understand it, Frodo is making an appearance, but only in the sense of allowing Bilbo to reminisce of those events from 70 years earlier. Frodo is not really in the movie in any real sense.

Jackson is drawing material from other Tolkien books. Hes not simply adding anything that wasn’t written by Tolkien’s hand.


67 posted on 12/02/2012 4:28:21 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Jonty30

Quite agree. The Hobbit was written very much from the perspective of a naive hobbit, who stumbled through immense events without really understanding what was going on.

As I understand it, PJ has simply expanded the story beyond what Bilbo witnessed. I’m looking forward to it.

I wonder if they’ll have Aragorn make an appearance. He should be about 30 years old. Though perhaps he was off serving the King of Rohan and the Steward of Gondor. Hadn’t yet become engaged to Arwen.


69 posted on 12/02/2012 4:34:55 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Jonty30; jmcenanly; FrdmLvr
>> Jackson is drawing material from other Tolkien books. Hes not simply adding anything that wasn’t written by Tolkien’s hand. <<

I find that hard to believe, because Jackson's LOTR trilogy (which again, needed FAR less "supplemental" material to bring it up to nine hours) had several major elements that were made up for films and not based on material from Tolkien's books. For example, the half-elf Arwen Undómiel is change from a minor character to a major character and the movies invent all sorts of new scenes and actions for her that weren't in the books versions of LOTR or The Hobbit. Second, Jackson does NOT have the rights to the other books set in Middle Earth (The Silmarillion, The Children of Húrin, etc.) so he couldn't even use material from the posthumous Tolkien books without Christopher Tolkien suing. Christopher Tolkien

71 posted on 12/02/2012 6:01:20 PM PST by BillyBoy ( Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: Jonty30; jmcenanly; FrdmLvr
>> Jackson is drawing material from other Tolkien books. Hes not simply adding anything that wasn’t written by Tolkien’s hand. <<

I find that hard to believe, because Jackson's LOTR trilogy (which again, needed FAR less "supplemental" material to bring it up to nine hours) had several major elements that were made up for films and NOT based on material from Tolkien's books. For example, the half-elf Arwen Undómiel is change from a minor character to a major character and the movies invent all sorts of new scenes and actions for her that weren't in the books versions of LOTR or The Hobbit. Second, Jackson does NOT have the rights to the other books set in Middle Earth (The Silmarillion, The Children of Húrin, etc.) so he couldn't even use material from the posthumous Tolkien books without Christopher Tolkien suing.

72 posted on 12/02/2012 6:02:02 PM PST by BillyBoy ( Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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