Posted on 11/25/2012 4:04:54 PM PST by LiberConservative
I'm conservative/libertarian. My family are all Obama 'Rats/moochers/OWS types. We had just watched the movie "Lincoln". I opined that it was good (and unusual) to see a Hollywood movie cast middle-aged, white, male Republicans in a favorable light. Yes, of course, the conversation immediately became about race. A few of my family said that at some point in history Republicans became and Democrats and vise-versa. I thought my head was going to explode. I am a huge fan of history and absorb it - especially the civil war. But I had never heard this before. Should I buy more duct tape?
Watch the video, then comment.
In disgust the Strom Thurmonds and a few others became Republicans.
That was the end of the Republicans.
We should simply admit that now and move on and create a new party that embraces liberty not socialism lite.
In Reply #ll FreedomPoster provides links that show that your gloss is superficial and your conclusion is wrong. I especially like http://www.freedomsjournal.net/2011/10/22/urban-legends-the-dixiecrats-and-the-gop/, which make points including:
- Not all Southern Democrats bolted to the Dixiecrat party, and Strom Thurman was one of only three prominent Dixiecrats (out of five Dixiecrat Governors and 21 Dixiecrat Senators) to go over to the Republican Party. The rest returned to the Democrat fold, fought the Civil Rights acts of 1957, 1960, and 1964 as Democrats, and retired as Democrats. So Strom Thurman was not at all typical of Dixiecrats in general.
- There is a difference between Republicans having respect for the Tenth Amendment and states rights, on one hand, and segregationists trying to use the Tenth Amendment to trump the Fourteenth and Fifteenth Amendments, on the other. As the example of the Eighteenth Amendment (Prohibition) and the Twenty First Amendment (repeal of Prohibition) illustrates, it is nonsense to use an earlier amendment to trump a later amendment.
Democrats have always used the segregationists to tar Republicans and the Tenth Amendment, but no subsequent amendment has actually repealed the Tenth Amendment. The Ninth and Tenth Amendments reflect the fact that the original intent of the framers of the Constitution was to leave out the Bill of Rights, on the principle that the powers of the Federal Government were defined and few, and anything outside of those bounds was forbidden without a Bill of Rights - including things that would not be articulated in any bill of rights which the framers could devise. The Nineth and Tenth Amendments intend to establish that the first eight amendments are to be a floor under our rights - not a ceiling above them, as is all too often the case in practice. Just as the Federalists feared when they opposed the inclusion of a bill of rights.
So appeal to the Tenth Amendment is legitimate - just not the particular appeal made by the segregationists, which Republicans have never been.
Ahh, the old Rothschilds/Jews/international bankers did it meme.
Sorry, but I have better things to do than watch 2.5 hours of somebody viewing history thru their anti-semitic lens.
Were the Rothschilds influential? You bet. Did they or do they “control the world?” Nope.
Thanks so much FRiends. I have a lot of reading to do. I won’t try to change any minds, but I’ll at least know I have my sanity. You folks are the BEST.
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