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Authorities still don't know what's on Trayvon Martin's cellphone
The Orlando Sentinel ^ | November 24, 2012 | Rene Stutzman and Jeff Weiner

Posted on 11/24/2012 7:14:10 AM PST by Uncle Chip

Despite all the investigation, public outrage and scrutiny over the shooting death of Trayvon Martin, at least one major piece of evidence has not yet been thoroughly analyzed: his cellphone.

Police found it at the scene the night Trayvon was shot, its battery dead. Authorities tried but failed to download data from the phone, then asked his father, Tracy Martin, for the security code so they could unlock it. They didn't get the code and turned the phone over to the Florida Department of Law Enforcement.

A crime-lab specialist there had only limited success accessing the messages, photos and other information on the phone, according to attorneys for defendant George Zimmerman.

Without the security code, FDLE analyst Stephen Brenton told attorneys, he could not unlock the phone and download information from its primary data-storage site: the chip built into the phone, said defense attorney Mark O'Mara.

Brenton was able to download files from two removable-storage devices in the phone: its SIM card and SD card, O'Mara said. But the information on its internal chip remains a mystery. It could be revealing, according to O'Mara and co-counsel Don West.

(Excerpt) Read more at orlandosentinel.com ...


TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: judicialactivism; nifongism; railroaded; trayvonmartin; trialbymedia; zimmerman
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To: dinodino

I wonder if it is an Obamaphone...


21 posted on 11/24/2012 7:38:57 AM PST by dinodino
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To: Uncle Chip

Just dial all 1’s. As high as Trayvon could count.


22 posted on 11/24/2012 7:42:42 AM PST by albie
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To: Uncle Chip

Try ‘Ho Ho!”


23 posted on 11/24/2012 7:43:57 AM PST by Doc Savage ("I've shot people I like a lot more,...for a lot less!" Raylan Givins)
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To: Uncle Chip
Honesty, if I were Tracy Martin, I wouldn't give the police full access to my son's phone either. It is a no win situation for him.

Rule #1, never give the police/prosecutor access to anything belonging to you unless you know exactly what's on it. It can always be used against you in court.

24 posted on 11/24/2012 7:45:53 AM PST by John123 (US$ - I owe you nothing. Euro - Who owes you nothing.)
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To: sauropod

I was thinking why would the old man know the code


25 posted on 11/24/2012 7:55:58 AM PST by stylin19a (obama -> Fredo smart)
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To: Uncle Chip

Is the “ Trail Of Tears “ tour still on? Who is financing that?


26 posted on 11/24/2012 7:56:23 AM PST by Artie (We are surrounded by MORONS)
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To: Dan Nunn

iirc the iPhone can also be set up to disable itself after 6 failed passcode attempts or reset itself after a certain number of failed pass code attempts ( I think 10).


27 posted on 11/24/2012 7:58:13 AM PST by ironman
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To: smokingfrog

On iPhone security:

While four digits is easy to remember, and can be entered quickly, the benefits of a longer password are profound. In their report on iPhone security, MIT’s Technology Review writes that software to “brute forces” iPhone passcodes by simply entering every possible four digit combination takes 800 milliseconds, or about 13 minutes.

Once a longer more complex passcode is in place, the time to crack quickly moves into unfeasible territory. Technology Review writes, “if the user chooses a six-digit PIN, the maximum time required would be 55 days; an eight-digit PIN would require more than 15 years.”

This isn’t a new feature to the iPhone operating system. In fact, it appears to have been around since around the introduction of the iPhone 3GS. Having a longer passcode is more than just a good way to keep out snoopy neighbors looking to brute force your phone. Technology Review notes that in addition to locking your phone, the passcode is tied to the phone’s encryption system.

Once you enter a passcode, four digits or otherwise, the iPhone automatically enables its data protection system. To encrypt information on the phone, Apple uses the Advanced Encryption Standard algorithm, which is the same standard adopted by the NSA. Each iOS device contains two unique 256-bit AES key which Apple explains in security whitepaper from this May are “fused into the application processor during manufacturing.”

It’s the combination of these AES keys and the user’s passcode that encrypts and decrypts files on the iPhone. “In addition to unlocking the device, a passcode provides the entropy for encryption keys, which are not stored on the device,” writes Apple in the whitepaper. “This means an attacker in possession of a device can’t get access to data in certain protection classes without the passcode.”

http://www.idigitaltimes.com/articles/10771/20120813/iphone-simple-passcode.htm


28 posted on 11/24/2012 8:01:05 AM PST by ironman
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To: Popman
He probably didn’t know it...

Then why didn't he just tell the police that??? Instead Tracy Martin said he'd check with his attorney, then never got back with police:

"At a March 8 news conference in Orlando, Tracy Martin told reporters he would not help police download information from the phone.

, family attorney Benjamin Crump said, "I don't know anything about that. We're going to do anything prosecutors say we should."

So -- according to this, Tracy Martin does know the PIN number, but just won't turn it over.

Get some popcorn and watch the drama over this phone play out, especially since Tracy Martin/Crump have already supposedly turned over the phone records to the prosecution/defense and those records may prove to be fraudulent.

29 posted on 11/24/2012 8:02:50 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: John123

“It is a no win situation for him”

That’s true...and I would agree with you, if the case were still in Phase A - Phase A being when the DA decided not to prosecute. Now that we are in Phase B, a media circus driven witch hunt by a special prosecutor, Tracy Martin lokks very, very bad when he witholds information. He started the media circus...and now its too hot in the kitchen?

Heck, if I were Martin, I would genuinely want to know what was on the phone.


30 posted on 11/24/2012 8:06:06 AM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: sauropod

And why hasn’t he been given a court order to reveal the code?

Actually, would he know it? Many many teenagers don’t tell their parents the code.


31 posted on 11/24/2012 8:07:02 AM PST by heartwood
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To: ironman

“if the user chooses a six-digit PIN, the maximum time required would be 55 days; an eight-digit PIN would require more than 15 years”

Assuming one is using an IBM XT with a 286 processor.

The NSA cracks 32 digit passwords in considerably less time.


32 posted on 11/24/2012 8:07:14 AM PST by I cannot think of a name
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To: dinodino

I wonder what model phone this was. Not an iPhone if it had an SD card, but some models lock users out for a period of time (the iPhone does) after a certain number of unsuccessful attempts.

That being said, there are many companies that specialize in this kind of stuff, and being a high profile case, I’d like to think (though maybe wrongly) that they’ve exhausted their options.


33 posted on 11/24/2012 8:14:53 AM PST by Dan Nunn (Support the NRA!)
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To: Uncle Chip

With this punk, try every four letter curse word. They could start with the f bomb since he was so fond of using it on FB.

Seems like they don’t want to know what’s on it.


34 posted on 11/24/2012 8:29:09 AM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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To: heartwood

heartwood~: “ And why hasn’t he been given a court order to reveal the code? “

Good legal point !

In terms of finding out what is on the phone, police / investigators also have to maintain a “Chain of evidence” (legal process/ form indicating any transferof phone and/or data ) without destroying it .
Best way is to make a duplicate of the phone and data, without damaging the original data .


35 posted on 11/24/2012 8:36:17 AM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt ("You can kill a free man,.. you can't enslave him." -Robert Anson Heinlein)
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To: Uncle Chip
Plugging a FB page.
It was created by an active duty serviceman stationed in Afghan
who couldn't devote the time required to it because of his other responsibilities.

While I still consider it his page, he gave me Admin status and I've been running it for a few months now.

Any Freeper wishing to join the page and contribute to the discussion would be welcomed and appreciated.

Save George Zimmerman from racial onslaught

36 posted on 11/24/2012 8:46:47 AM PST by kanawa
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To: Ramonne
They must think all people are truly stupid.

Yup.

Didja see the results of the last election?

37 posted on 11/24/2012 8:47:50 AM PST by null and void (America - Abducted by Aliens...)
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To: dinodino

FUMF
That was easy.

Why would da gubmit take so long and still not succeed? Because its the gubmit employees wanting to ride that thing as long as they can.


38 posted on 11/24/2012 8:48:51 AM PST by X-spurt (It is time for OFF YOUR FEET and on the gravy-train)
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To: albie
Just dial all 1’s. As high as Trayvon could count.

Good guess, but given that he was doubtless an obama supporter: zero, zero, zero, zero...

39 posted on 11/24/2012 8:50:09 AM PST by null and void (America - Abducted by Aliens...)
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To: bgill
Seems like they don’t want to know what’s on it.

Yep. And that phone could be one of the main reasons that the Martins pressed for a change in prosecutors back in March. The SPD and DA were pressing for the password and access to the phone and Martin did not want to give it up.

And since Corey took over the case there has been no effort to access the phone -- that we or the defense know of.

Get the popcorn -- this could be interesting.

40 posted on 11/24/2012 8:52:31 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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