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To: Perdogg
It’s amazing to me, of those who call themselves Christians or Messianic Jews, few have a clue of his actual date of birth or even crucifixion.

Many would be shocked to learn what they're really celebrating each Christmas and Easter!

Yeshua (Jesus isn't a Hebrew word) was born on Tishri 15, 3999.

13 posted on 11/21/2012 9:03:40 AM PST by Errant
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To: Errant

Why Sukkot? Why 3999 and not 4000?, why do some sources say 3998?

Why the first day of the civil year rather than the first day of the ecclesiastical year?


24 posted on 11/21/2012 9:21:04 AM PST by null and void (America - Abducted by Aliens...)
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To: Errant

If they are really Christians then they are really celebrating the birth and resurrection of Jesus Christ on those dates. Period. The fact that the dates we use were once pagan holy days is of no import. It the Christian effort to stamp out the pagan gods by supplanting them in the culture. It is similar to moslems building that stinking dome on the site of Solomon’s Temple.


60 posted on 11/21/2012 6:06:44 PM PST by Trod Upon (Obama: Making the Carter malaise look good. Misery Index in 3...2...1)
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To: Errant; null and void; Former Fetus
Yeshua (Jesus isn't a Hebrew word) was born on Tishri 15, 3999.

While I do not condemn the celebration of Christmas,
a clear reading of the Holy Word of G-d would lead to another date.

A date commanded by YHvH with clear Biblical meaning and understanding.

Chanukah is a great time for followers of the Jewish Messiah to celebrate.
The eight day Feast of Chanukah echoes of the eight days of the Feast of Tabernacles
Chanukah was most likely when the "light of the world"
(John 8:12) entered human form and tabernacled among us.

Feast of Tabernacles is the birth day of Yah'shua.

This question is answered when you believe and trust
the Holy Word of Elohim in Luke 1.
Yah'shua's birth on Sukkot
(Sukkot is the Feast of Tabernacles or booths,
where we live in temporary shelters.
Sukkot is when YHvH took on a temporary
garment to be with His People
and to die as the Lamb of G-d on Pesach
in order to bring salvation to all
who would call on His Name:
(Romans 10:13 & Joel 2:32)
Yah'shua ( YHvH is become my salvation)).
Ps. 18:2, 46; 27:1; 35:9; 38:22; 88:1;
118:14; 119:174; 140:7; Isa. 12:2; 56:1;
61:10; Mic. 7:7; Hab. 3:18

Sukkot as the date is supported by Elizabeth's
pregnancy of John the Immerser.
The time sequence is outlined by the
Holy Word of Elohim in Luke 1 with Zacharias.

Zacharias served as a high priest and
based on his tribe, we know when he served
(1 Chronicles 24:7-18) and when he was
struck dumb and when John was conceived.

John would have been born on Pesach.
Most Jews believed that Elijah
would come at Pesach to announce
the coming of the Messiah (Malachi 4:5).

Factor in when Miriam visited her cousin Elizabeth,
Elizabeth was six months pregnant (Luke 1:26)
Thus the timing of Yah'shua's birth can be ascertained.

John (1:14) tells us that Yah'shua was made flesh
and tabernacled among us.

The word "dwelt" in the Koine Greek is:

σκηνόω Strong's G4637 - skēnoō
1) to fix one's tabernacle,
have one's tabernacle,
abide (or live) in a tabernacle (or tent),
tabernacle
2) to dwell

Eight days after the beginning of Sukkot is
another Holy Feast Day called Shemini Atzeret.

Eight days after a Jewish male is born he is circumcised.

After the Eighth day comes the the most Joyous day:
Simchat Torah or
the rejoicing in the Torah (The Word of Elohim).

Nine months back from Sukkot is Chanukah
where the light entered the temple.

Biblical Dates for the Birth of Yochanan the Immerser
and for the Conception and Birth of Yeshua HaMashiach

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

88 posted on 11/25/2012 6:38:41 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: Errant

I just went to www.hebcal.com and did a conversion to Gregorian for 15 Tishri. It’s October 1st...or at least, it is THIS year.


96 posted on 11/26/2012 3:44:38 AM PST by hoagy62 ("Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered..."-Thomas Paine. 1776)
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To: Errant
Yeshua (Jesus isn't a Hebrew word) ...

Sure it is. It's an obvious transliteration. The "J" is a "Y" sound in many languages, especially the germanic ones. In others it is an "i-e" dipthong that has a "y" sound.

So we have: "yeh" "shoe" in hebrew and we have "yeh" "zoo" as a transliterate attempt to mimic the sound. With the "jay" pronunciation of "j" in English and the "ee" instead of "ei", you get "Jee" "zuz" from an earlier obvious "yeh-zoo".

The good news for messianics is that there was an effort to be faithful to the "yeshua" name as evangelism spread to other nations.

105 posted on 11/29/2012 6:18:33 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Errant
Yeshua (Jesus isn't a Hebrew word) was born on Tishri 15, 3999.

I believe I've read in your earlier posts that you believe Jesus was born during the Feast of Tabernacles. Observant Jews were required to participate in this festival. From what I've read, the Gospels make no mention of Mary and Joseph attempting to celebrate Sukkot while on their way to Bethlehem to take part in Herod's census.

110 posted on 12/02/2012 1:32:26 AM PST by thecodont
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