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1 posted on 11/13/2012 11:17:45 AM PST by Kartographer
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Preppers’ PING!!


2 posted on 11/13/2012 11:18:20 AM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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Have you gotten feedback from the folks hit by Sandy yet? I am pretty sure your advice (obviously stocking up on gasoline) would have helped them a lot.

Just curious.

I am always honest: I think WTSHTF is twaddle but preparing for emergencies is what any smart person should do.


3 posted on 11/13/2012 11:24:26 AM PST by freedumb2003 (Here comes bama claus here comes bama claus left down bama claus lane!)
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To: Kartographer

(insert goats and chicken joke here)


4 posted on 11/13/2012 11:25:09 AM PST by freedumb2003 (Here comes bama claus here comes bama claus left down bama claus lane!)
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100 Items to Disappear First

1. Generators (Good ones cost dearly. Gas storage, risky. Noisy...target of thieves; maintenance etc.)
2. Water Filters/Purifiers
3. Portable Toilets
4. Seasoned Firewood. Wood takes about 6 - 12 months to become dried, for home uses.
5. Lamp Oil, Wicks, Lamps (First Choice: Buy CLEAR oil. If scarce, stockpile ANY!)
6. Coleman Fuel. Impossible to stockpile too much.
7. Guns, Ammunition, Pepper Spray, Knives, Clubs, Bats & Slingshots.
8. Hand-can openers, & hand egg beaters, whisks.
9. Honey/Syrups/white, brown sugar
10. Rice - Beans - Wheat
11. Vegetable Oil (for cooking) Without it food burns/must be boiled etc.,)
12. Charcoal, Lighter Fluid (Will become scarce suddenly)
13. Water Containers (Urgent Item to obtain.) Any size. Small: HARD CLEAR PLASTIC ONLY - note - food grade if for drinking.
14. Mini Heater head (Propane) (Without this item, propane won’t heat a room.)
15. Grain Grinder (Non-electric)
16. Propane Cylinders (Urgent: Definite shortages will occur).
17. Survival Guide Book.
18. Mantles: Aladdin, Coleman, etc. (Without this item, longer-term lighting is difficult.)
19. Baby Supplies: Diapers/formula. ointments/aspirin, etc.
20. Washboards, Mop Bucket w/wringer (for Laundry)
21. Cookstoves (Propane, Coleman & Kerosene)
22. Vitamins
23. Propane Cylinder Handle-Holder (Urgent: Small canister use is dangerous without this item)
24. Feminine Hygiene/Haircare/Skin products.
25. Thermal underwear (Tops & Bottoms)
26. Bow saws, axes and hatchets, Wedges (also, honing oil)
27. Aluminum Foil Reg. & Heavy Duty (Great Cooking and Barter Item)
28. Gasoline Containers (Plastic & Metal)
29. Garbage Bags (Impossible To Have Too Many).
30. Toilet Paper, Kleenex, Paper Towels
31. Milk - Powdered & Condensed (Shake Liquid every 3 to 4 months)
32. Garden Seeds (Non-Hybrid) (A MUST)
33. Clothes pins/line/hangers (A MUST)
34. Coleman’s Pump Repair Kit
35. Tuna Fish (in oil)
36. Fire Extinguishers (or..large box of Baking Soda in every room)
37. First aid kits
38. Batteries (all sizes...buy furthest-out for Expiration Dates)
39. Garlic, spices & vinegar, baking supplies
40. Big Dogs (and plenty of dog food)
41. Flour, yeast & salt
42. Matches. {”Strike Anywhere” preferred.) Boxed, wooden matches will go first
43. Writing paper/pads/pencils, solar calculators
44. Insulated ice chests (good for keeping items from freezing in Wintertime.)
45. Workboots, belts, Levis & durable shirts
46. Flashlights/LIGHTSTICKS & torches, “No. 76 Dietz” Lanterns
47. Journals, Diaries & Scrapbooks (jot down ideas, feelings, experience; Historic Times)
48. Garbage cans Plastic (great for storage, water, transporting - if with wheels)
49. Men’s Hygiene: Shampoo, Toothbrush/paste, Mouthwash/floss, nail clippers, etc
50. Cast iron cookware (sturdy, efficient)
51. Fishing supplies/tools
52. Mosquito coils/repellent, sprays/creams
53. Duct Tape
54. Tarps/stakes/twine/nails/rope/spikes
55. Candles
56. Laundry Detergent (liquid)
57. Backpacks, Duffel Bags
58. Garden tools & supplies
59. Scissors, fabrics & sewing supplies
60. Canned Fruits, Veggies, Soups, stews, etc.
61. Bleach (plain, NOT scented: 4 to 6% sodium hypochlorite)
62. Canning supplies, (Jars/lids/wax)
63. Knives & Sharpening tools: files, stones, steel
64. Bicycles...Tires/tubes/pumps/chains, etc
65. Sleeping Bags & blankets/pillows/mats
66. Carbon Monoxide Alarm (battery powered)
67. Board Games, Cards, Dice
68. d-con Rat poison, MOUSE PRUFE II, Roach Killer
69. Mousetraps, Ant traps & cockroach magnets
70. Paper plates/cups/utensils (stock up, folks)
71. Baby wipes, oils, waterless & Antibacterial soap (saves a lot of water)
72. Rain gear, rubberized boots, etc.
73. Shaving supplies (razors & creams, talc, after shave)
74. Hand pumps & siphons (for water and for fuels)
75. Soysauce, vinegar, bullions/gravy/soupbase
76. Reading glasses
77. Chocolate/Cocoa/Tang/Punch (water enhancers)
78. “Survival-in-a-Can”
79. Woolen clothing, scarves/ear-muffs/mittens
80. Boy Scout Handbook, / also Leaders Catalog
81. Roll-on Window Insulation Kit (MANCO)
82. Graham crackers, saltines, pretzels, Trail mix/Jerky
83. Popcorn, Peanut Butter, Nuts
84. Socks, Underwear, T-shirts, etc. (extras)
85. Lumber (all types)
86. Wagons & carts (for transport to and from)
87. Cots & Inflatable mattress’s
88. Gloves: Work/warming/gardening, etc.
89. Lantern Hangers
90. Screen Patches, glue, nails, screws,, nuts & bolts
91. Teas
92. Coffee
93. Cigarettes
94. Wine/Liquors (for bribes, medicinal, etc,)
95. Paraffin wax
96. Glue, nails, nuts, bolts, screws, etc.
97. Chewing gum/candies
98. Atomizers (for cooling/bathing)
99. Hats & cotton neckerchiefs
100. Goats/chickens

From a Sarajevo War Survivor:
Experiencing horrible things that can happen in a war - death of parents and
friends, hunger and malnutrition, endless freezing cold, fear, sniper attacks.

1. Stockpiling helps. but you never know how long trouble will last, so locate
near renewable food sources.
2. Living near a well with a manual pump is like being in Eden.
3. After awhile, even gold can lose its luster. But there is no luxury in war
quite like toilet paper. Its surplus value is greater than gold’s.
4. If you had to go without one utility, lose electricity - it’s the easiest to
do without (unless you’re in a very nice climate with no need for heat.)
5. Canned foods are awesome, especially if their contents are tasty without
heating. One of the best things to stockpile is canned gravy - it makes a lot of
the dry unappetizing things you find to eat in war somewhat edible. Only needs
enough heat to “warm”, not to cook. It’s cheap too, especially if you buy it in
bulk.
6. Bring some books - escapist ones like romance or mysteries become more
valuable as the war continues. Sure, it’s great to have a lot of survival
guides, but you’ll figure most of that out on your own anyway - trust me, you’ll
have a lot of time on your hands.
7. The feeling that you’re human can fade pretty fast. I can’t tell you how many
people I knew who would have traded a much needed meal for just a little bit of
toothpaste, rouge, soap or cologne. Not much point in fighting if you have to
lose your humanity. These things are morale-builders like nothing else.
8. Slow burning candles and matches, matches, matches


5 posted on 11/13/2012 11:31:24 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: Kartographer

Good article, modifiable depending upon your personal threat assessment.


6 posted on 11/13/2012 11:33:23 AM PST by Godzilla (3/7/77)
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To: Kartographer

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8 posted on 11/13/2012 11:36:07 AM PST by PMAS (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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And learn to never throw anything away. Use it up.

For example, I was watching a prepping show the other day. Some people were all proud of themselves because they turned a bushel of apples into cider. WTF?

First of all, the skins of those apples could be dried, spiced, and used for snacks. The meat of the apple can be canned for pie or fruit and longer term storage. The smaller pieces around the core can be used for apple pie jam. The core can be crushed, soaked, and the loose juice used for jelly or syrup. What remains of the core can be used for making apple cider vinegar (which would be used to preserve vegetables that lack long term storage abilities, like summer squash and cucumbers).

These "preppers" were making friggen cider - one gallon - and were so proud of themselves. Seriously? I mean really. Seriously???

Don't throw away hard wood ash from the wood stove. Make soap. AND that ash is 20-50% lyme (depending on the type of wood). It can be used for the garden to de-acidify mulch, or made into a paste for stove repair. It's also good for melting ice, or covering "humanure" if necessary.

11 posted on 11/13/2012 11:38:10 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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12 posted on 11/13/2012 11:38:45 AM PST by PMAS (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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Worn out clothes can be made into layered quilts for warmth. Fabrics not suited for quilts can be braided into rugs. The colonialists used these rugs to sleep on and as cushions for the wagon seats.

Animal bones can be boiled and the juice used for soup broth, then ground to add calcium to the garden (necessary for tomatoes). Animal fat can be rendered and used as lard, or saved for soap.

Boiled, Cut off ends or leaves of veggies can also be used for broth. Afterwords, toss them into the mulch bin to replenish your garden soil.

Bottles filled with water will retain heat. They're a good passive solar item. Use them as warm windows in make shift shelters. Old bottles also make a good insulator between the floor and the ground if making a shed or small shelter.

Cob (clay, sand, and hay) will make a workable oven, wood stove, or hut. Thatching, or field plants, make a fine roof.

You can make quick bread from any edible seed. Mix with wood ash while dry, and add vinegar right before cooking. The combination of ash and vinegar (acid and alkaline) will cause the substance to bubble, or rise. This works well for a pancake type bread.

You can start a fire with the bottom of a broken glass bottle (or eyeglasses) like a magnifying glass. Focus the rays of the sun into a small dot over dry grass. It will start to smoke and turn to cinder. Add larger pieces to the grass until the fire is strong.

17 posted on 11/13/2012 12:03:48 PM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Kartographer

Getting serious about prepping is overwhelming at first so this helps. Thanks!


20 posted on 11/13/2012 12:15:45 PM PST by MissMagnolia ("It is when a people forget God that tyrants forge their chains" - Patrick Henry)
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Thank you for the posts! I've learned a great deal from them.

The derecho that hit Ohio on June 29th left us without power for four days and neighbors nearby in the dark for almost two weeks. Fortunately, we still had water and sewer service, and we could drive about an hour to reach gas supplies, but having a generator and some supplies on hand made things much easier. We were "lucky" - temperatures were close to 100 degrees each day, so we didn't have to worry about the cold.

Since we're in a prepping thread, a question - what is the best method for siphoning gasoline from cars (my cars, not the neighbors) without having to taste gas? :)

21 posted on 11/13/2012 12:15:48 PM PST by TonyInOhio
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To: Kartographer

This is excellent! There is so much prepper information available, and it’s all different. What one person forgets to include, the next guy remembers.


22 posted on 11/13/2012 12:20:19 PM PST by Tarantulas ( Illegal immigration - the trojan horse that's treated like a sacred cow)
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Kart,

Just wondering, do you know if anyone out there sells a steam (wood) powered generator? Good idea for someone to start a business.


130 posted on 11/14/2012 2:55:37 AM PST by Hugin ("Most times a man'll tell you his bad intentions, if you listen and let yourself hear."---Open Range)
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