Posted on 11/11/2012 8:11:17 PM PST by KGeorge
Islamization isn't only happening in Europe. If these are our "allies", I'd sure hate to hear what our enemies have to say about us.
According to Rabbi Baruch Efrati,
"Jews should 'rejoice at the fact that Europe is paying for what it did to us for hundreds of years by losing its identity.' "
"With the help of God, the gentiles there will adopt a healthier life with a lot of modesty and integrity, and not like the hypocritical Christianity which appears pure but is fundamentally corrupt," he explained."
"even if we are in a major war with the region's Arabs over the Land of Israel, Islam is still much better as a gentile culture than Christianity."
He added, however, that Jews must pray that the Islamization of most of Europe will not harm the people of Israel."
(Excerpt) Read more at ynetnews.com ...
I’ve heard that line in primary and secondary school over in Ireland too. There is a missing dimension there, where the Irish upper classes did enough oppressing of their own people. Do some research in regards to the history surrounding Dermot MacMurrough and his relationship with Henry II of England—as well as the relationship of Henry II with Pope Alexander III, who granted that king lordship of Ireland in 1172. Countries do not maintain a long-lasting united (and for the most part, mutually-beneficial) relationship via constant oppression—there was more amiability than you seem to have heard of.
The 1916 Rising had a lot of communists involved, too; even Lenin regarded that as the first communistic (albeit failed) revolution, and took it as an inspiration for his own Bolshevik revolution.
American Jews voted 70% for Hussein.
One can only ask: what have you been smoking?
This so called religious scholar and leader is delusional beyond belief. He is upset about things done hundreds of years ago to the Jews but does not seem to give a fig about what muslims are doing to Jews TODAY.....keep saying this kind of nonsense and God will show you exactly what a muslim Europe means to today’s Jews
How do you know this? (I’ll thank you to MYOB regarding my lingerie. Speaking of deteriorations in our culture, you make my point)
No. Jews & Islamists.
You approve of Jews “socially engineering” the populations of countries other than their homeland & defamation against Christians? If someone were saying these things about Jewish people, I’m positive you’d be quite upset.
GF [myself]? Really.?
The disgrace here isn’t mine.
How did you know that I’m in Texas? Is that an implied threat?
“...keep saying this kind of nonsense and God will show you exactly what a muslim Europe means to today’s Jews”
I don’t know what you mean by this. Clarify?
My point was simple...this stupid rabbi (and I use that term loosely) would rather have a muslim dominated Europe because of those nasty Christians. Fine when that happens he will find that Israel is no longer....the muslims will have over run them as well. This idiot does not realize that Christians are Israel’s and the Jews best hope of survival.....And what is it you thought I meant? I was pretty clear....at least I thought so
Exaggeration, to put it mildly. i've lived in Poland for the past 2.5 years and visited Hungary, Croatia and Slovakia. Then 10 years ago i lived in the UK with long stays in Belgium and shorter ones in other western european countries
ari -- your statement is wrong to consider Europe as ONLY Western Europe. Eastern Europe (Hungary, Poland, Croatia, Slovakia) are pretty strongly Christian
Even in Western Europe I've seen and been part of communities in England and Belgium and yeah, even in Paris who are still strongly, and I mean STRONGLY Christian
These are a small number -- maybe 10% or less, but still.
Christianity is most definitely not dead in the increasingly godless nations of the UK, France and Germany.
In Scandanavia, your statement is close to true in my opinion, but I've not spent any significant time around those places to make a statement based on experience.
Thanks for stating that so clearly -- this rabbi speaks for himself and definitely does not speak for Jews as a whole
in fact in WWI and WWII the Irish voluntarily fought for the Crown against Germany
Remember that the 1800s "communism", "socialism", "liberalism" meant something different from later years
The Communism in Russia was a freak -- Marx envisioned communism in an industrial environment, not an agricultural society like Tsarist Russia
The anarchist movement in Central Europe and in Ireland was against despotic (in the case of Central Europe, the Kaiser and Tsar) and all-powerful (in the case of Ireland) rulers
This had ideas of equal opportunity and also was fighting against the autocratic sstem in Russia, the aristocratic society in Germany and England
By the standards of the 1800s, even late 1800s, the USA was a very liberal society and even "socialist" in the respect that this was a society where everyone had the opportunity to rise based on abilities (which is not what could be said about Tsarist Russia or English-ruled Ireland).
However the terms have changed and the raison-d'etre of many of these movements no longer exist (case in point -- socialism helped end child labor and 80 hour work weeks in terrible factory conditions, but the fight for 35 hour weeks is taking something to exaggeration)
69%, and more to the point, I am 100% sure that our fellow Freepers who happen to be Jewish like Yehuda or ari would never even dream of voting for 0.
First of all, let me say the Scandos are incredibly stupid to have invited in a bunch of muslims. I don’t know why on earth they did this, but they were very foolish. How those peoples went from being the invading Viking hordes to their present day “live and let live” almost nihilists I’d love to know!
Now, let me say, we in the west need to have a real christian revival. I would urge even atheists to get religion.
The battle with Islam has entered another stage and almost nobody gets that this is happening. Most people who do get it are derided as complete cranks.
Yet the jihadis take it deadly seriously.
Oh well, at least THEY know we are not cranks.
Suggest you don’t waste your time.
To the true anti-English Irishman it’s always 1649 and Cromwell has just finished his massacre at Drogheda. They’re just not interested in the true history of Ireland except insofar as it can be used to demonize England. In this regard it is much like the various “studies” fields in academia, where one doesn’t really research black history, one researches the oppression of blacks by white people.
Which is not to say that there isn’t plenty of English oppression to study, only that as you say the story is more complicated.
In particular, the history of the mostly peaceful (relative to earlier and later periods) evolution of Irish/English relations from the 1880s to 1914 is generally ignored. During this period the conflict was primarily intra-Irish, with the Ulster Protestants not unreasonably violently opposed to being handed over to the tender mercies of those they had contributed to oppressing for several centuries.
In 1914 the Irish Home Rule bill was passed, which peacefully gave Ireland all most Irish people wanted. It never went into effect, due to other issues taking precedence later in the year.
Well it is just a fact that in the last 1300 years (and particularly in the last century) Christian Europeans (and anti-Christian and post-Christian Europeans) have killed a great many more Jews that Muslims have.
How and whether that sad history is relevant today is a completely different question.
Well it is just a fact that in the last 1300 years (and particularly in the last century) Christian Europeans (and anti-Christian and post-Christian Europeans) have killed a great many more Jews that Muslims have.
How and whether that sad history is relevant today is a completely different question.
What a lunatic.
Islam is a war plan.
Christ is the answer.
>> Well it is just a fact that in the last 1300 years Christian Europeans have killed a great many more Jews that Muslims have.
“Christian Europeans”
Really, jackass?
Hitler was doing Christ’s work?
You’re a dick.
They then thought that they could solve the world's problems and invited refugees in to live off their welfare
They never thought of the repercussions
btw, the bloodthirsty Vikings were the ones that left the Scandanavian lands and became Normans or others.
And don't expect them to care for human rights.
when the Chinese take over Central Asia, expect a bloodbath.
And the Russian mindset is framed around the retaking of Constantinople. That has been the dream continuously since 1453. It is a deep religious fervor even for those who are athiests in Russia.
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