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To: nathanbedford

Been asking similar questions the past day or so.

My conclusion thus far has been that Conservatives need to learn how to play better politics, but people keep getting upset that I even suggest the idea…

Also consider perhaps actually studying the electorate, see what the prevailing opinions are, what can be done to make the message more palatable and to whom, etc.

As in, actual research. Not just feelings and hunches.

Just a thought.


9 posted on 11/11/2012 2:18:26 AM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State)
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To: Utmost Certainty
Amen


10 posted on 11/11/2012 2:22:28 AM PST by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: Utmost Certainty
Hi, troll.

You are giving up the war by conceding the high ground, as though the culture and mindset is a given that we have to "adapt to".

We should engage and remake the culture, and then leave the left scrambling to whine and adapt and make excuses.

Lying scum moron Marxist vermin.

39 posted on 11/11/2012 5:26:52 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: All

This introspection is very reminiscent of 1992 and 1996.
I remember we tried to compromise our values in 1996 and what happened? The game in 2000 was equal and we won with a different message and a very, very strong and dedicated ground game of our people going out there and taking the message to the rest of the people. The effort was focused in 2004 on reaching the elusive 271, not turning liberals into republican voters, they just needed enough to win. This is exactly what Obama did except they set the stage in 2008 and kept their people on the ground for four years.
Face it, it was this close in spite of the weak campaign Romney ran. They never really drew clear distinctions between him and Obama and they never really pressed those that were clear on the campaign trail. He never really said that we need to cut Planned Parenthood funding and PBS because they are profitable entities on their own. He never made the case for how economic growth will increase the tax revenues and reduce the deficit and debt. He never really made the case for why the debt and deficit was a national security issue. What they did was tried to make Romney more likeable and they failed. Taken one at a time, Romney won an all issues except likeability and that was based on a false premise and a media construct.

We need to stop playing the media game and speak to the people on issues we know we all share. The economy, respect for life, national security, freedom to choose, freedom to succeed and freedom to fail.

Like when Bush41 expected to win because Clinton was such a lightweight, we expected the people to see that without really pointing it out. They didn’t. We won by pointing out how much a clown and phony Kerry was and how impressive Bush was at the time. There was no effort in any ads I saw to really point out the embarrassing negatives of Obama out of fear. Bottom line, we had everything on our side but we lost out of fear.

Our messages won. Kaine ran as a Reagan conservative when in fact he’s an ultra leftist liberal and nobody pointed that out. Same with our members of Congress. They lost not because their message was wrong, but the inability of the national message to be communicated clearly.


72 posted on 11/11/2012 7:05:31 AM PST by newnhdad (Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
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