Posted on 11/02/2012 1:55:07 AM PDT by Kartographer
Some people simply cannot prep for two to three weeks of total living off the grid.
And what does the city do to prep for flooded subways and infrastructure.
Like I said, I have no use for whining by those who did not prep or take it seriously, but people are suffering and dying through no fault of their own, even of those who did prep.
What needs to stop is the blanket condemnation of everyone in the areas of devastation who are dealing with something beyond their worst nightmare.
I’m sick of the callous attitude towards those who didn’t prep the way others think they should have.
The god complex is disgustng.
Gas Outages Hit 30,000 Across New Mexico
Hey, I’m getting up there in years myself, and I’m in good shape. But take away my medication and I’ll die.
Old people can be really tough as long as all the parts hold together. But there are a lot of people who are genuinely sick, in pain, fragile-old. Part of the reason they’re living in apartments is that they can’t take care of themselves in a house anymore. I have friends and family like this.
I “resemble” that remark, I think, since you attached my name. Want to survive? Ask me, I'll tell you how (80 yrs. old) with preps.
“But take away my medication and I’ll die.”
A doctor will give you a prescription for a year. The insurance will pay for the usual three months and you will have to pay the retail price for the other nine months, but it can be done. It is only the insurance limiting you to the three months.
Told my doctor I was a prepper and he laughed and said he would give me a year’s prescription.
“I always prepare well, but having enough gas for my generator to run for days is a problem. Just storing 50-75 gallons of gas, keeping it dry & safe from the storm, is a problem. Too, this much gas can blow you to tiny bits.”
http://www.propane-generators.com/
Propane won’t go bad, like gasoline. It won’t turn into varnish like gas. Its cheaper than gas. Oh, and you can store a bunch of it in 100 lb. cannisters that are plenty safe. I just recommended that my brother (in NJ) convert his generator to propane after this is all over.
_... for later.
I agree. Decent people help first when help is needed. There's plenty of time to criticize later, plenty of time to say, "Now that you know what life can throw at you, don't come crying to me next the next time it happens - be prepared, because its YOUR responsibility."
This site has kits for conversions: http://www.propane-generators.com/
Or get yourself one of these:
http://biolitestove.com/campstove/camp-overview/features/
Once you have some heat being produced in the stove, the heat produces electricity via a thermoelectric generator. This, in turn, powers a fan that makes the burning very, very clean. It also produces enough excess electricity to power a USB charging port - so you can recharge cell phones and an e-reader. Oh, and it is a STOVE, so you can also boil water or cook some food on top of it, as well.
You're quite right. And my doctor, a friend, would give me a prescription for a year. But I have no insurance, and my drugs, even in the generic form, are expensive. At present I'm working two part-time, low-paying jobs after a prolonged period of unemployment when I couldn't even get those humble jobs. I don't have the money to lay in a big supply of medication. I'm lucky if I can afford one month at a time.
Fact is, it wasn't too long ago that people like me would have just died young. In a real SHTF scenario, it's not clear I'd make out too well, despite all my tough-girl talk.
One of my brothers lives in NJ. He said that the gas is on, but that there are reports that the utility is running out of fuel for its generators, so the gas may get shut down in a few days - great timing, given that a nor'easter is on the way.
It struck me as odd - what, a natural gas pumping station doesn't have generators powered by...wait for it...natural gas? Really? Seems pretty stooooopid to me, but anyway that's what I heard.
I don't think that the gas would be shut down unless they couldn't keep it on - it is getting cold up there at night, and that'd kill a bunch of people.
Don’t forget that refineries depend most of all on a stable fresh water supply. You need power, of course, but without water, no gas, or anything else.
Also, you are going to crank it up if there’s a possibility of a sudden failure. Things go BOOM when that happens.
There are things like getting roads cleared and getting port debris cleared that are the responsibility of the state and local authorities. Now, they can certainly contract the work out . . .
That would have been my first thought as well, seems like a "natural". My concern was based on what appeared to be a localized firestorm in Breezy Point which destroyed 50 or so houses. I know that they tell people in California to shut off their gas meters after an earthquake but that won't help much of the mains or the laterals to your house are ripped open.
My house is about 600 feet above Lake Michigan level and any localized flooding from heavy rains drains away almost as fast as it comes down. We are also pretty stable geologically in SE Wisconsin, I've heard of two earthquakes in our area in my lifetime and I'm 69 years old. Although the largest, most damaging quake in US history hit the Missouri/Illinois border area in the late 1800's. It rang church bells in Boston, caused the Mississippi to run backwards for three days, and created Reelfoot lake which exists to this day!
Regards,
GtG
What is the solution to defecating if you live in an apartment?
Bucket + Window = Solution
Bag it, then trash it.
When I was a young child, I lived in a home without running water or electricity. One night, I was sick - it might have been some bad water from a windmill- and could not make it to the outhouse. My mother had me take care of business on some newspaper on the floor which she got rid of after use.
That was my experience. So I am relaying it to you.For what its worth.
Take care.
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