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1 posted on 10/30/2012 11:47:37 AM PDT by Steely Tom
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I disagree because of the media and outlets like Nate Silver dems are very confident...they don’t fathom losing

If anything you have no choice as president to service yourself and be available for disasters. Its the human nature thing...anything that is percieved to be less gets met with Bush hurricane Katrina comparisons...because of Katrina no government official in charge will ever skimp on disaster relief or appearances...


2 posted on 10/30/2012 11:50:41 AM PDT by chevydude26
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How far reaching is his power to pardon—i.e. can he throw the prison doors to huge crowds of “his people” who have been convicted of rape and murder?


3 posted on 10/30/2012 11:52:49 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (Obama: "If you've got a business -- you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen.")
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He’s probably helping Eric Holder man the SUPERSHREDDER 5000 in the basement of the DOJ.. Bzzzzzzt.. Bzzzzzzzzzt.. There goes another one, Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzt..


4 posted on 10/30/2012 11:56:19 AM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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No doubt President Jarrett told him the optics wouldn’t look good and ordered his skinny butt back to DC.


7 posted on 10/30/2012 12:01:41 PM PDT by JPG (Make it happen)
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No. If he loses he will be replaced by Republicans. Republicans just love to ‘let bygones be bygones” and everything will just go silent.More likely he will use the 83 days to make his administration more memorable than you could now believe and give another big boost toward collapse on his way out. He has had no qualms so far about defying Congress and the Constitution and has written new laws and reinterpreted or refused to enforce existing laws. The Lame Duck daperiod should be a real doozy.


8 posted on 10/30/2012 12:02:39 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE www.fee.org/library/books/economics-in-one-lesson)
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I agree it was political, but not because he has lost, and giving up to go home. It is because he is losing, and the campaign events are not making any difference at this point. Flying back ‘looked’ Presidential, and now that he is ‘in command’ his campaign hopes he can use this to change the trajectory of the campaign. Without a significant change, he is going to lose.


14 posted on 10/30/2012 12:21:27 PM PDT by ilgipper (Obama supporters are comprised of the uninformed & the ill-informed)
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The only thing that really matters is if it is proven he was ineligible. If that is so, all bills signed by him and all treaties signed by him become invalid.

Pretty good payoff if it can be done.


15 posted on 10/30/2012 12:25:00 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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No, he just figures he will get a boost in approval by “looking Presodential”. That will do more for him than a few more campaign stops. He just finished a “me, me, me,” press conference taking credit for what others are doing. As someone on FOX said yesterday, the president doesn’t really do much in this kind of disaster except release money, and Obama is an expert at releasing money. As for Benghazi, nobody in the media except FOX is reporting it anyway.


18 posted on 10/30/2012 12:37:07 PM PDT by Hugin ("Most times a man'll tell you his bad intentions, if you listen and let yourself hear."---Open Range)
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I go back and forth about this. Sometimes I think that he is not interested in winning. At other times I think that he just has no idea how to work hard at something.

Which ever the case, I have had the feeling for a while now that he is just phoning it in.


21 posted on 10/30/2012 12:51:46 PM PDT by rbbeachkid (Get out of its way and small business can fix the economy.)
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Given his record, I imagine he’s busy contacting foreign embassies, trying to negotiate asylum for him and the wife after the election.


23 posted on 10/30/2012 12:59:58 PM PDT by Kenton
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I have an alternative theory. Perhaps he realizes big mo is against him...and he realizes being out on the trail isn't getting him any more votes. The only ones who show up are deep blue supporters.

Maybe he thinks its to his strategic advantage to stay at home and get all positive press...and by staying home he will actually gain votes.

Just a thought.

25 posted on 10/30/2012 1:03:02 PM PDT by NELSON111
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Remember that the candidate may keep unspent election funds at the end of the campaign, and he will need to ching for his crib to host his choom gang. He went to Florida to pick up a check, IMHO.

It must have been enough to set him up. Besides, he is probably a stockholder in an arms sale company to sell to the Muslim Brotherhood after he leaves office, along with his hco-owners, I’m thinking.

Besides, he’s got so many, many pardons to sign, a la Clintoon, after the election.


29 posted on 10/30/2012 1:09:01 PM PDT by LachlanMinnesota
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I’d love to think you’re right, but in the immortal words of Yogi - “It ain’t over till it’s over” and a week is an eternity in politics. Keep in mind that the bulk of the undecided voters are people who are only vaguely aware of the issues, and a lot of them are only vaguely aware that this is planet earth, so if 0bama can portray himself as a leader in post-storm recovery, it could go a long way.


32 posted on 10/30/2012 1:17:26 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty ( For AMERICA's sake: Vote for the Mormon, NOT the muslim; The Capitalist, NOT the Communist! FUBO!)
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There will be no justice. President Pollyanna (Bush 43) was much more conservative than flip-flop Mitt, and he didn't do anything about the Clinton's shameful pardon / vandalism / looting party.

I'm looking forward to seeing Obama fired as much as anyone, but he will be replaced by a Massachusetts liberal liar.

The wise conservative will take pleasure in Obama's exit yet be DOUBLY vigilant during the next four years.

Let us not forget it was Bush who destroyed the fourth amendment. The Romney / Ried / Salt Lake cult will go after the first.

Mark my words.

43 posted on 10/30/2012 1:36:57 PM PDT by SENTINEL (Romney is to Conservatism what Mormonism is to Christianity.)
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Are you kidding? The left thinks they are winning. They know it is close, but they believe they are going to carry Ohio and win. Nate Silver and his “model”, along with InTrade odds and a few friendly polls is what they base this on. Obama has most certainly not given up.

Hussein is back in DC dealing with the storm because it is a great way to make him look like a leader and presidential. Romney can’t do the same, and Obama will use this to his advantage. Make no mistake, this storm was a big shot in the arm for Obama.


49 posted on 10/30/2012 1:50:36 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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HillBuzz hsd a column on this very topic a couple of days ago. They speculate that Obama’s last 83 days will be devoted to securing as much money for Mr. and Mrs. Zero, and their upcoming Barack Obama/Karl Marx Social Justice Center and Car Wash in Hawaii. As during Clinton’s final days, everything will be for sale; ambassadorships, pardons, favorable executive orders, etc. And with lessons learned from the Clintons, Zero and Company will find ways to keep their deals out of the spotlight, and the money trail will never be uncovered.

Clinton has reportedly pocketed well over $100 million since leaving the White House. Obama has the potential to make that much BEFORE leaving office.

Sad to say, but lining his pocket might be the least damaging option for Obama’s final months in office.


54 posted on 10/30/2012 2:24:20 PM PDT by ExNewsExSpook
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You may have a point.

This was around the time in 1980 when Pat Caddell told Carter he was going to lose, within 1% of the actual vote totals.


55 posted on 10/30/2012 2:24:43 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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All that lost potential. Just think of the positive impact he could have had on the black community: encouraging young people to achieve in school, end out of wedlock births, stop the violence.

He could have been a star. He actually made it worse.


57 posted on 10/30/2012 2:40:27 PM PDT by mom.mom
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"Do we benefit more - as a country - by letting Obama and his claque swim away, or do we continue to press for justice after they're gone?"

We should have hearings to scare future governments into better behavior but let Obama go. He will be known forever as the most incompetent President in recent American history. His Nobel Peace Price will be viewed as a joke. His signature legislation will have been overturn, showing clearly how he wasted two years of legislative time while the economy was tanking. Thousands of new Government employees will be laid off as Romney turns back Federal spending to a more reasonable level. Joe Biden's comments that Obamacare was a "big f-cking deal" will continue to ring true, as it will be the only piece of legislation in American history that both changed the composition of Congress and, two years later, removed a President.

Obama will sit in his Hawaiian retirement home having to live with the fact that his "elections have consequences" and "we won" comments to the Republicans doomed his effectiveness for the remaining three years of his Presidency.

He will also wail and gnash his teeth over the fact that he allowed Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi to run away with their majorities and saddle Americans with another $7 trillion in debt, while successfully foisting all the blame for the debt on Obama.

Finally, he will someday punch Bill Clinton in the nose, when the Secret Service isn't looking, for having told him back in 2009 that "the reason I lost the Congress back in 1994 was because I didn't pass nationalized healthcare. You have bigger majorities than I did, so press on! You'll ensure Democratic dominance for decades once it passes."

67 posted on 10/30/2012 5:16:18 PM PDT by tom h
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