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Pure Vanity: Why Things Have Changed With Blacks and Obama After Tonight
Myself | 10/27/12

Posted on 10/27/2012 10:01:48 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache

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To: My Favorite Headache
I was trying to figure out where to to Post this thought, but this seems as good a Thread as any.

Imagine of one of the Seals killed in Benghazi was Black?

Any thoughts on that my FRiends?

61 posted on 10/27/2012 11:51:32 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (How do you insult an Obama Voter? Call them an Obama Voter.)
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To: LongWayHome
Take this to the bank: blacks will vote well over 90% for Obama.

Yes, the ones that actually turn out to vote - what percentage will stay home ?

62 posted on 10/27/2012 11:53:26 PM PDT by 1066AD
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To: sand88
Next time you should pass out Sowell's books!

It's a worthy idea, and I will give it due consideration, but I've done my level best to turn my family members on to columns and books by black conservative thinkers, and haven't gotten any bites.

Blacks (on average) can be very orthodox in what they perceive to be group agreements, and thus, can be very resistant to even inspecting the thoughts and ideas of known outsiders and rebels.

It's why they don't listen to me, despite the fact that they admire and value my opinions in other areas. When it comes to politics, they just chalk my positions up to some sort of weird eccentricity.

63 posted on 10/27/2012 11:53:38 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: FryingPan101

We will all know on Nov 7th what the numbers say. I would be pleased to see black folks sit this election out in great numbers....we shall see.


64 posted on 10/27/2012 11:54:37 PM PDT by LongWayHome
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To: American Constitutionalist
I voted for Perot in 1992 when I wasn’t really paying attention to Politics. Everyone sins...

I simply think this way now. If they Voted for Obama in 2008, it was probably due to Ignorance.

If they Vote for Obama in 2012, Ignorance is no excuse.

65 posted on 10/27/2012 11:56:18 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (How do you insult an Obama Voter? Call them an Obama Voter.)
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To: GeronL
Why don’t you mention how much the new park cost taxpayers?

Because that's not what this conversation is about, GeronL.

Geeez Louise....post a separate thread about the cost of that new park, if you're so concerned about it.

66 posted on 10/27/2012 11:56:29 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Kickass Conservative

I think three of the people rescued from the consulate were black. I thought it was interesting when I read it. I am pretty sure I read that in the last two days. It had to be the account from the Libyan security guards who ran. The attackers did not kill those Libyan guards. They beat them up and maybe grazed them with bullets.


67 posted on 10/28/2012 12:01:29 AM PDT by petitfour
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To: LongWayHome
...not enough will stay home to swing this election to Mitt IMO. Sorry folks, that’s just how I see it.

You seem to be stuck in a fixed viewpoint that isn't informed by anything other than pure opinion about what black voters are going to do in this election.

It's fine with me if you'd rather guess at what black voters will do on November 6th, but you could truly inform yourself rather easily if you wanted to.

The fact is, sentiments about Obama are now mixed among blacks. They've suffered more than any other group during his presidency. Support for him in the black community isn't nearly as strong as you might think.

68 posted on 10/28/2012 12:03:11 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Kickass Conservative

http://world.time.com/2012/10/21/the-other-911-libyan-guards-recount-what-happened-in-benghazi/

The American guards at the consulate/mission were black. The exNavy SEALs rescued them.


69 posted on 10/28/2012 12:04:18 AM PDT by petitfour
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To: My Favorite Headache

Wow. Great stories. Cold nite in Metroplex. How’s the park btw?


70 posted on 10/28/2012 12:06:12 AM PDT by Ravi
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To: American Constitutionalist
I would not try to rub it in if Obama loses.

I wouldn't think of it, even though they rubbed my nose in their win, four years ago. It's just not how we conservatives roll.

I'm also not going to try to educate them any further. Been there - done that - have the scars to show for it.

71 posted on 10/28/2012 12:06:52 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

How’s this: I’m going by past HISTORY of black voting behavior since the 1960s. Blacks, in general, don’t vote in large numbers for the GOP, ever, anywhere. I interact with blacks all the time at work & I’ve yet to hear one of them say that they are not voting for Obama. You have “feelings” on your side....great, I respect that, but I’ll stick with how I have watched blacks ACTUALLY vote in the real world year after year.


72 posted on 10/28/2012 12:11:45 AM PDT by LongWayHome
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To: FryingPan101
" They never asked anything of him except he be a good steward and a positive image "

In that regard ? black people and white people have something in common.
73 posted on 10/28/2012 12:13:55 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: 1066AD

We don’t know how many blacks will stay home, but the burden to prove that is not on me....history has shown that blacks ain’t buying what the GOP is selling. To expect them to sit on their hands and watch the first black president go down to defeat is asking a lot....don’t you think ?


74 posted on 10/28/2012 12:16:29 AM PDT by LongWayHome
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To: petitfour
My point was, would the Black community still show the same support for Obama if one of the Four Dead Americans were Black?

Would the complicit Media continue to downplay what happened if that was the case?

Would all the Players in this fiasco, Obama, Biden, Clinton and the rest be held accountable by the Democrat Base since that clearly is not happening at the moment?

Basically, would that simple fact change what we see today in the Press and the Presidential Polls?

75 posted on 10/28/2012 12:21:20 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (How do you insult an Obama Voter? Call them an Obama Voter.)
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To: tomkat
...encouraging anecdotal news, and not isolated, I'm sure.

It's not isolated. It's pretty widespread. As was stated upthread, many (if not most) well educated, enterprising blacks who gave Obama their vote in 2008, have literally been shamed by his awful performance in office. They thought he would finally bring some dignity to the image of black people, but he did nothing of the kind.

If anything, he's set the public relations of black people back by decades, and a lot of blacks are seriously feeling betrayed about it. The man is a complete embarrassment to them. He's shown himself to be incompetent, weak, indecisive, divisive, petty, irresponsible, vindictive, juvenile, and truly uncaring.

Blacks watched Congress write him a check for nearly a Trillion Dollars to stimulate the economy, and didn't see a single dime trickle down into their neighborhoods, businesses, etc. But they sure did see Wall Street and GM get bailed out. Don't think for a moment that they didn't react to that.

Many blacks are also deeply religious, and didn't take kindly to his 'evolving' stance on gay 'marriage', or the fact that he always seems to have a kind word for Islam, but rarely for Christianity. He's no different than any other sweet talking con man they've run across, and that's exactly how many now see him.

76 posted on 10/28/2012 12:21:59 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier
" It's why they don't listen to me, despite the fact that they admire and value my opinions in other areas. '

You just might be surprised that in fact that they are listening to you more than you think.
You said they admire and value your opinion in other areas ?
That tells me that the things you say and the things that you think are not sinking in are in fact sinking in.
The fact that they didn't even argue with you and gang up on you the last time that you had a political talk with them and they sat their quiet is in fact a new day and stepping in the right direction.
I would go on and venture that they brag about and are proud of their brother among co-workers or friends.

77 posted on 10/28/2012 12:25:29 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: My Favorite Headache

I have one friend and one family member who are die-hard democrats. One is in Georgia, the other in California. They both have decided to dump Obama, although the GA one said she will not vote Romney. The CA is still deciding. Their votes won’t matter, but it is interesting how people are fed up.


78 posted on 10/28/2012 12:26:53 AM PDT by gman4bush
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To: jocon307

Crystal clear ;)


79 posted on 10/28/2012 12:28:13 AM PDT by My Favorite Headache (In a world where I feel so small, I can't stop thinking big.)
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To: LongWayHome
How’s this: I’m going by past HISTORY of black voting behavior since the 1960s.

Unless you're living in your own private Ground Hog Day, this time is not like other times. History changes with each passing day.

Obama now has a record. One that is so disastrous, he can't run on it, but can only attack his rival. Part of that record is the fact that blacks have suffered more under his presidency than any other group.

Don't think that they're not acutely aware of it. They fully expected dramatic changes to their way of life, due to Obama being president, but conditions have actually deteriorated for them and their families. I'm afraid there will be a price to be paid for that. Many blacks are going to take their frustrations out on Obama by staying home.

You say that you interact with blacks all the time at work. Sit down and have lunch with them some time, and ask them what they think of the last four years. You might hear some surprising answers.

80 posted on 10/28/2012 12:32:08 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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