Um, depends on what you mean by religion. Analytically, a religion may be defined as a self-consistent set of beliefs about God and man’s relationship to him. Freemasonry has a view of God that is essentially Unitarian. Whether you are Muslim or Jewish or Christian or Hindu, all roads lead to the same destination, the Celestial Lodge.

And how does one gain admission to said lodge? Through Masonic Morality. For more details, see here:

http://www.formermasons.org/issues/freemasonrys_plan_of_salvation.php

So freemasonry has the attributes of a well defined religion. Indeed, one of the problems people have with Mormonism is that it is basically a ripoff, a variant of freemasonry repackaged for modern consumption by ol’ Joe himself. One of the evidences of this, I am told, is the secret handshake required to get past hall monitor Joe in the afterlife; it is, according to some here on FR who have seen both, identical to one of the Masonic secret handshakes. Someone should probably post that on the web. Heaven for everyone. Who needs the dusty old Gospel when a secret handshake will do?

Um, depends on what you mean by religion. Analytically, a religion may be defined as a self-consistent set of beliefs about God and man’s relationship to him. Freemasonry has a view of God that is essentially Unitarian. Whether you are Muslim or Jewish or Christian or Hindu, all roads lead to the same destination, the Celestial Lodge.

And how does one gain admission to said lodge? Through Masonic Morality. For more details, see here:

http://www.formermasons.org/issues/freemasonrys_plan_of_salvation.php

So freemasonry has the attributes of a well defined religion. Indeed, one of the problems people have with Mormonism is that it is basically a ripoff, a variant of freemasonry repackaged for modern consumption by ol’ Joe himself. One of the evidences of this, I am told, is the secret handshake required to get past hall monitor Joe in the afterlife; it is, according to some here on FR who have seen both, identical to one of the Masonic secret handshakes. Someone should probably post that on the web. Heaven for everyone. Who needs the dusty old Gospel when a secret handshake will do?

In the meantime, your post is just over the top evil.

You've skipped a LOT of my other replys, to comment on this one.

Any reason?

Yeah, wishing Mitt Romney dead is not helping her anti-Mormon crusade.

It's anti-mormonISM; in case you've now been following along.

If I am not mistaken, elsie is a guy.

AHHhhh...

...you've been aware of my activities in the past; eh?

I tend to agree.

I am interested in saving the country from further harm.

Then attack the SOURCE; not the SYMPTOM.

She nailed your ignorant self, and those like you here, to the wall is what she did!

Such a lovely response! Do your thing and knock yourself out, the words you and the others choose to hurt do indicate to me a certain hatred for the man.

Ah!

You must be an expert at parsing the English language.

Perhaps others do not quite detect the subtlety I use.

Why not take one or two of my HATE sentences and break it down for the unlearned to gain knowledge?

HAving others in the fight to detect HATE! can only bolster your chances at nullifying the HATE!ful things I so casually toss about; right?

Try pointing your finger elsewhere, I am so not interested.

Oh?

Then just why did you waste your valuable time to reply to me?

(Are you now on some official anti-Elsie religious expression crusade?)

Office of First President & Living Prophet®:

December 11st, 2011

URGENT!

Fellow MORMON Freeper Christians!!

I've been getting lots of feedback from those of you on Free Republic (spit) about a certain Colorfornicator (or something like that), who is REALLY giving us a hard time there.

Why not try to point out to the uninformed how OBSESSED he seems to be.

Let's see if we can tangle him up so much trying to defend his reputation that he'll no longer have as much time to post facts about MORMONism.

As always, Tommy M.

P,S. Get that prolific ELSIE while you are at it, too; What a THORN!!!

At least his religion never listed as “Muslim” in his school records, and he never attended Reverend Wright’s Church of “Hate Whitie.”

HMMmm...

I wonder what kind of 'church' Mitt, up until he was 32 years old, dedicated his life to??

"You see some classes of the human family that are black, uncouth, uncomely, disagreeable and low in their habits, wild, and seemingly deprived of nearly all the blessings of the intelligence that is generally bestowed upon mankind.

The first man that committed the odious crime of killing one of his brethren will be cursed the longest of any one of the children of Adam. Cain slew his brother. Cain might have been killed, and that would have put a termination to that line of human beings.

This was not to be, and the Lord put a mark upon him, which is the flat nose and black skin. Trace mankind down to after the flood, and then another curse is pronounced upon the same race--that they should be the 'servant of servants', and they will be, until that curse is removed."

Brigham Young-President and second 'Prophet' of the Mormon Church, 1844-1877- Extract from Journal of Discourses.

Here are two examples from their 'other testament', the Book of Mormon.

2 Nephi 5: 21 'And he had caused the cursing to come upon them, yea, even a sore cursing, because of their iniquity. For behold, they had hardened their hearts against him, that they had become like unto a flint; wherefore, as they were white, and exceedingly fair and delightsome, that they might not be enticing unto my people, the Lord God did cause a skin of blackness to come upon them.'

Alma 3: 6 'And the skins of the Lamanites were dark, according to the mark which was set upon their fathers, which was a curse upon them because of their transgression and their rebellion against their brethren, who consisted of Nephi, Jacob and Joseph, and Sam, who were just and holy men.'

August 27, 1954 in an address at Brigham Young University (BYU), Mormon Elder, Mark E Peterson, in speaking to a convention of teachers of religion at the college level, said:

"The discussion on civil rights, especially over the last 20 years, has drawn some very sharp lines. It has blinded the thinking of some of our own people, I believe. They have allowed their political affiliations to color their thinking to some extent.I think I have read enough to give you an idea of what the Negro is after."
"He is not just seeking the opportunity of sitting down in a cafe where white people eat. He isn't just trying to ride on the same streetcar or the same Pullman car with white people. It isn't that he just desires to go to the same theater as the white people. From this, and other interviews I have read, it appears that the Negro seeks absorption with the white race. He will not be satisfied until he achieves it by intermarriage."
"That is his objective and we must face it. We must not allow our feelings to carry us away, nor must we feel so sorry for Negroes that we will open our arms and embrace them with everything we have. Remember the little statement that we used to say about sin, 'First we pity, then endure, then embrace'...."

(Rosa Parks would have probably told Petersen under which wheel of the bus he should go sit.)

1967, (then) Mormon President Ezra Taft Benson said,

"The Communist program for revolution in America has been in progress for many years and is far advanced. First of all, we must not place the blame upon Negroes. They are merely the unfortunate group that has been selected by professional Communist agitators to be used as the primary source of cannon fodder."

We are told that on June 8, 1978, it was 'revealed' to the then president, Spencer Kimball, that people of color could now gain entry into the priesthood.

According to the church, Kimball spent many long hours petitioning God, begging him to give worthy black people the priesthood. God finally relented.

Sometime before the 'revelation' came to chief 'Prophet' Spencer Kimball in June 1978, General Authority, Bruce R McConkie had said:

"The Blacks are denied the Priesthood; under no circumstances can they hold this delegation of authority from the Almighty.
The Negroes are not equal with other races where the receipt of certain blessings are concerned, particularly the priesthood and the temple blessings that flow there from, but this inequality is not of man's origin, it is the Lord's doings."
(Mormon Doctrine, pp. 526-527).

When Mormon 'Apostle' Mark E Petersen spoke on 'Race Problems- As they affect the Church' at the BYU campus in 1954, the following was also said:

"...if the negro accepts the gospel with real, sincere faith, and is really converted, to give him the blessings of baptism and the gift of the Holy Ghost, he can and will enter the celestial kingdom. He will go there as a servant, but he will get celestial glory."

When Mormon 'Prophet' and second President of the Church, Brigham Young, spoke in 1863 the following was also said:

"Shall I tell you the law of God in regard to the African race? If the white man who belongs to the chosen seed mixes his blood with the seed of Cain, the penalty, under the law of God is death on the spot. This will always be so."
(Journal of Discourses, Vo. 10, p. 110)

Yeah; Native Americans are althroughout the Book of MORMON; too.

“I saw a striking contrast in the progress of the Indian people today ... they are fast becoming a white and delightsome people.... For years they have been growing delightsome, and they are now becoming white and delightsome, as they were promised.... The children in the home placement program in Utah are often lighter than their brothers and sisters in the hogans on the reservation.

At one meeting a father and mother and their sixteen-year-old daughter were present, the little member girl-sixteen-sitting between the dark father and mother, and it was evident she was several shades lighter than her parents—on the same reservation, in the same hogan, subject to the same sun and wind and weather.... These young members of the Church are changing to whiteness and to delightsomeness.

One white elder jokingly said that he and his companion were donating blood regularly to the hospital in the hope that the process might be accelerated.

(Improvement Era, December 1960, pp.922-23). (p. 209)

I stated that the ONE post I responded to was evil...because it is. Period. And even YOU cannot defend it...unless you think it’s Christian to wish another human being dead because they don’t agree with you.

Sigh....

What function does the VPOTUS have; other than to break a tie vote? (Some curious person could do some research to see how often THAT has occured)

We all know it's to take over the job of PRESIDENT if something happens to the actual President.

How many MORMONs have used this theme as a sop to Evangelicals?

And I am evil?

HA Ha ha! {evil laugh}

You should have posted that long cut and paste to AllAmericanGirl44 not to me.

Nope.

I was commenting on YOUR use of a CATHOLIC reference.

MY skin has been toughened by use all these years. It is a necessity on FR these days.

I really want to know why folks are afraid to have a Mormon in the White House.

I really want to know why folks are afraid to have a MUSLIM in the White House.

I SAID what the reason was. The rest of the stuff was just more of the same and arguing over it is just not my cup of tea.
However, wishing death on someone is a whole ‘nother thing and THAT bothered me.

The corollation between Mormon and Catholic bashing was specifically chosen because I had the impression that if it were 1960, the same folks would be talking about JFK in pretty much the same fashion.

This 'same folk' knew very little about what the Bible teaches back in 1960.

It seems today there are even MORE folks in that same boat.

Hey MORMONs!!! I've changed my mind.

-- GOD

Official Declaration—2

To Whom It May Concern:

On 30 September 1978, at the 148th Semiannual General Conference of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, the following was presented by President N. Eldon Tanner, First Counselor in the First Presidency of the Church:

In early June of this year, the First Presidency announced that a revelation had been received by President Spencer W. Kimball extending priesthood and temple blessings to all worthy male members of the Church. President Kimball has asked that I advise the conference that after he had received this revelation, which came to him after extended meditation and prayer in the sacred rooms of the holy temple, he presented it to his counselors, who accepted it and approved it. It was then presented to the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles, who unanimously approved it, and was subsequently presented to all other General Authorities, who likewise approved it unanimously.

President Kimball has asked that I now read this letter:

June 8, 1978

To all general and local priesthood officers of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints throughout the world:

Dear Brethren:

As we have witnessed the expansion of the work of the Lord over the earth, we have been grateful that people of many nations have responded to the message of the restored gospel, and have joined the Church in ever-increasing numbers. This, in turn, has inspired us with a desire to extend to every worthy member of the Church all of the privileges and blessings which the gospel affords.

Aware of the promises made by the prophets and presidents of the Church who have preceded us that at some time, in God’s eternal plan, all of our brethren who are worthy may receive the priesthood, and witnessing the faithfulness of those from whom the priesthood has been withheld, we have pleaded long and earnestly in behalf of these, our faithful brethren, spending many hours in the Upper Room of the Temple supplicating the Lord for divine guidance.

He has heard our prayers, and by revelation has confirmed that the long-promised day has come when every faithful, worthy man in the Church may receive the holy priesthood, with power to exercise its divine authority, and enjoy with his loved ones every blessing that flows therefrom, including the blessings of the temple. Accordingly, all worthy male members of the Church may be ordained to the priesthood without regard for race or color. Priesthood leaders are instructed to follow the policy of carefully interviewing all candidates for ordination to either the Aaronic or the Melchizedek Priesthood to insure that they meet the established standards for worthiness.

We declare with soberness that the Lord has now made known his will for the blessing of all his children throughout the earth who will hearken to the voice of his authorized servants, and prepare themselves to receive every blessing of the gospel.

Sincerely yours,

Spencer W. Kimball

N. Eldon Tanner

Marion G. Romney

The First Presidency

Recognizing Spencer W. Kimball as the prophet, seer, and revelator, and president of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, it is proposed that we as a constituent assembly accept this revelation as the word and will of the Lord. All in favor please signify by raising your right hand. Any opposed by the same sign.

The vote to sustain the foregoing motion was unanimous in the affirmative.

Salt Lake City, Utah, September 30, 1978.

However, wishing death on someone is a whole ‘nother thing and THAT bothered me.

It's going to come to us all.

Statistically, mine sooner than Mitt's.

WHY were we so thrilled 4 years ago when SARAH!! was the Veep choice of Republicans?

The 'death wishes' that were being tossed up (most were silent) about McCain never seemed to engender an 'oh so evil' response.