[JRandomFreeper]

Strawman. You set up your definition of what you think SHTF is.

The SHTF for me Oct 2008 during the market crash. That was economic. I mostly managed that (no running water), and hit the road to repo technical equipment for a leasing company. Glad I had the pistol along, and called the local constabulary before I went door-to-door with my piece of paper and a locksmith.

Dec 2009, SHTF in a more personal way with a serious injury that left me in ICU for 2 weeks and cripple for most of a year. After I got out of the hospital, I lived on stored rations with forage. No running water for half of that year.

Things got somewhat better after that, but another downturn and I went back on stored rations and forage. I had running water for most of that time.

I have store bought food today, and running water (still no running hot water, since 2008), but you can bet I restocked stored rations first.

/johnny

[Born to Conserve]

Do you have internet access?

[Marcella]

My front door is metal. It was put on this house when it was built in 1983 - that could mean it’s a stronger metal than metal doors made today. I’ve examined the door as well as I can, and it appears to be two metal sheets, each 1/4 inch thick, and I suppose there is blank space between the two sheets.

My question is, what caliber bullet would it take to go through that door? Would a 38 hollow point do it, or would it take a larger caliber to do it? Since I’m on the inside, I’d like to know what someone outside would have to shoot to go through the door where I would be standing.

I’m sure some of you gun guys know the answer to this question.