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To: Dallas59
So, honey keeps longer with the pollen removed, so we can't prove it's honey if there is no pollen, so it's all fake because we can't prove it isn't. BS.

I just bought two small “bear” bottles of Kroger Pure Clover Honey. Looking at the bottle, it says “Pure Clover Honey”, “Grade A, Product of USA”.

This is part of my prepper supplies and I want honey with the longest life which is, without pollen it lasts forever.

This article is extremely misleading.

25 posted on 10/19/2012 5:50:56 PM PDT by Marcella (Republican Conservatism is dead. PREPARE.)
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To: Marcella
So, honey keeps longer with the pollen removed, so we can't prove it's honey if there is no pollen, so it's all fake because we can't prove it isn't. BS.

It all depends on what is is (thank you mr clinton) Doing some research it may be that honey doesn't crystallize as much with the pollen removed. Many people think honey is bad when crystallized and don't realize all you have to do is put in boiling water to change it back to liquid form. But how many of us would buy crystallized honey from the store so it does extend market life, but not useful life?
35 posted on 10/19/2012 6:07:39 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple ( (Lord, save me from some conservatives, they don't understand history any better than liberals.))
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To: Marcella

re: So, honey keeps longer with the pollen removed, so we can’t prove it’s honey if there is no pollen, so it’s all fake because we can’t prove it isn’t. BS.

My take on it as well.


36 posted on 10/19/2012 6:08:28 PM PDT by Nevadan
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To: Marcella

Raw, strained, but unfiltered honey will last a long time too, but it will crystallize. I have half a 5 gallon pail of crystallized wildflower honey that’s ten years old, and I scoop out some, decrystalize it, and it’s still good. Honey co-ops like the ubiquitous Sue Bee will hot-filter honey to keep it from crystallizing on the shelf, because grocery store consumers won’t buy crystallized honey. But they don’t usually take the step of removing ALL the pollen.

Most of the article is true, unfortunately. I was a beekeeper for years and kept up with the trade magazines and government actions, and saw this develop.

My customers loved the raw strained honey, sometimes with a little bee leg or wing in it, because they felt it was superior to the filtered, pasteurized supermarket stuff. I used to love the irony of getting more per pound for a less-processed product (though I could not deliver 10,000 pounds per year). I even had customers who would not buy UNLESS it was fully crystallized because they thought it would keep better.

The bears you bought at Kroeger are USA real honey. I checked a local “club store” and their honey said, product of the USA, Argentina, Chile, or France, which is a major clue.

Buy American! Buy from a local beekeeper!


54 posted on 10/19/2012 6:46:47 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: Marcella

“This is part of my prepper supplies and I want honey with the longest life which is, without pollen it lasts forever.”

Honey generally doesn’t rot. It’s very antibiotic. Some varieties, most famously manuka, are used to treat wounds. The pollen in it doesn’t matter.


66 posted on 10/19/2012 7:30:31 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Leftists are the small hive beetles of the American hive)
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To: Marcella

The honey market has been horribly polluted for years:

http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2011/08/honey-laundering/


116 posted on 10/20/2012 11:57:43 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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