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Another view of Lincoln.
1 posted on 10/14/2012 2:27:52 PM PDT by donmeaker
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To: donmeaker
the South [claimed] the right to spread slavery to the North, where there was no economic rationale for it. and today the 1960s Marxist-Alinsky campus psycho spoiled brats and their bratty ideological issue have claimed the right to spread statism to all the Republic.

Abe says we have a problem.. he explains from "the other side."

You initiated a policy to tolerate the Marxist-Alinsky radicals and let them rant; not only has it not ceased but was constantly augmented by decades of infiltration and indoctrination. You now have two Americas. In my opinion, it will not cease until a crisis shall have been reached and passed. "A house divided against itself cannot stand." I believe this government cannot endure, permanently, half statist and half free; I do not expect the house to fall; but I do expect it will cease to be divided. It will become all one thing, or all the other.


2 posted on 10/14/2012 2:41:48 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: donmeaker

Dubious as to whether Lincoln was born in that log cabin on that day and year, and whether Thomas Lincoln was his father.
His marriage to Mary Todd is what made him - people disparaged her because she was the other, necessary half of his Mr Nice Guy persona.


3 posted on 10/14/2012 2:46:28 PM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: donmeaker

He was smart and ruthless.


5 posted on 10/14/2012 2:56:36 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: donmeaker
In 1863, Lincoln tucked the theme of emancipation into the main war aim of suppressing the insurrection by selling this in the North not as Union soldiers dying to liberate slaves, but the enticement of the slaves to revolt and harass the insurrection of the secessionists.

This is inaccurate. In the Emancipation Proclamation he stated, " And I hereby enjoin upon the people so declared to be free to abstain from all violence, unless in necessary self-defence; and I recommend to them that, in all cases when allowed, they labor faithfully for reasonable wages."

8 posted on 10/14/2012 5:18:50 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: donmeaker

Good article, but he greatly over-simplifies the story of the formation of the Republican Party.

It was in reality formed from northern Whigs, after the disintegration of that party, a good many northern Democrats who couldn’t stomach their party’s submission to the slaveocracy any longer, and parts of the American or Know-Nothing Party, a short-lived anti-immigrant group that did amazingly well in the mid-1850s but then fell apart.

About all the various factions making up the new Republican Party had in common at first was opposition to the spread of slavery.


9 posted on 10/14/2012 5:23:18 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: donmeaker

Good article, but he greatly over-simplifies the story of the formation of the Republican Party.

It was in reality formed from northern Whigs, after the disintegration of that party, a good many northern Democrats who couldn’t stomach their party’s submission to the slaveocracy any longer, and parts of the American or Know-Nothing Party, a short-lived anti-immigrant group that did amazingly well in the mid-1850s but then fell apart.

About all the various factions making up the new Republican Party had in common at first was opposition to the spread of slavery.


10 posted on 10/14/2012 5:23:30 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: donmeaker

My opinion is Lincoln was a warrior. Churchill thought Lincoln did not give his generals enough chance to prove themselves but I think he was a natural warrior who could not understand why his generals did not understand war and did not have any patience with them for that reason. He went through generals until he found the ones who saw things the way he saw them.


11 posted on 10/15/2012 10:06:33 AM PDT by bkepley
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To: donmeaker
from the article: "Given the hyperbole which frequently attaches to much-admired Americans, there is a temptation to assume that Lincoln could not possibly deserve the stratospheric elevation he has received.
But he does."

Thanks for posting a great article.
It reflects my opinion, exactly.

12 posted on 10/15/2012 12:55:13 PM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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To: donmeaker

The one thing that Lincoln lovers cannot deny, is that Lincoln settled the question as to whether we would we be collection of sovereign states with a weak central government or a strong central (federal) government where states were considered to be weak, geopolitical subsets answering to their masters in Washington. Once that was settled, the slide down the slippery slope to socialism/communism has grown increasingly faster with each passing year.

Thanks, Abe.


22 posted on 10/16/2012 5:52:12 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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