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To: discostu
A major reason for that is we’ve lost the concept of the social contract, because the social contract included a major form of punishment: ostracizing.

Oh, that still exists. But what we see now is the dark side of that. Where people are ostracized and worse for not fouling their nest, preying on their fellow humans, etc. There are racist undertones to that as well. The crab basket mentality prevails in some circles.

Frankly, FRiend, those who know God will behave well, those who do not will go by some codified set of rules, or write their own for themselves and whatever social microcosm they inhabit, for good or ill, reflecting whatever motivations are important to them.

As for the business owner, if he'd had a problem, letting it go on for two years hardly seems like he was notifying someone of their 'breach of (the social) contract'. I reckon that if you're going to have something like that, then some responsibility for the problem lies with the owner for not piping up sooner.

Religion was at one time considered far more important by a greater proportion of the population than it is today, and the expectations engendered thus were reflected in the rest of society. That has changed, and now the mass media seem to be racing toward the bottom of the behavioural scale, rather than striving for better.

Hence, people have become more crude, more vulgar, and less considerate.

150 posted on 10/08/2012 9:28:13 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Smokin' Joe

When standing police forces first started coming into the world there were some commentators that said it was the end of civilization. And in the end I think they were right, because now that we have police we no longer self police. You can really see this in which parts of society still do tend to self police: law breakers. The people that can’t go to the police enforce their own rules on each other. The law abiding part of society tend to hope problems go away on their own or the cops handle it.

In the old days church was as much about getting the group together regularly as it was about religion. If you know you’re going to be gathering in a big room with the rest of your local society once a week, with a guy up front willing to call you out, you’ve got a lot more reason to keep to the rules. Even if you don’t believe in the religion knowing your entire town will find out about the bad things you do is a big inspiration to not do them.


151 posted on 10/08/2012 9:50:30 AM PDT by discostu (Not a part of anyone's well oiled machine.)
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