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To: allmendream
There is no evidence that Obozo was born anywhere but Hawaii.

Yes there is. The fact that Stanley Ann showed up in Seattle in late August. It has been pointed out that no Airline would have allowed the baby to fly so soon after it was born. That pretty much proves Obama could not have been born in Hawaii on August 4, 1960.

The prevailing legal opinion is that a US citizen is either born or naturalized.

The prevailing opinion used to be that the world was flat. Citing as proof the fact that a lot of people believe something is known as the fallacy of "argumentum ad populum." I have little doubt that the prevailing legal opinion is that birth within our boundaries makes one a "natural born citizen", but I also have little doubt that this opinion is simply wrong, and is based on a faulty interpretation of the Wong Kim Ark decision, the 14th amendment, and the Original Common law.

One has to do actual research to realize that the founders didn't accept this blanket definition. There were many thousands of British Loyalists who were born after July 4, 1776 that were not considered American citizens by either the founders or the British. THOUSANDS. Their very existence refutes the stupid theory.

52 posted on 10/06/2012 4:11:12 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: DiogenesLamp

So he was born in Seattle according to you, or do you suppose his mom DROVE HIM from Kenya to Seattle?

Do people have a natural right to bear arms or is that just man made law?


71 posted on 10/06/2012 6:53:03 PM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: DiogenesLamp

There were many thousands of British Loyalists who were born after July 4, 1776 that were not considered American citizens by either the founders or the British. THOUSANDS. Their very existence refutes the stupid theory.
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Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

OK

My 4th great grandfather Stephen and his father and generations before them were born in the US...

But those 2 men were Loyalists ...

In 1784 Stephen married in Montreal a woman who had been born in the US and was the descendant of generations of “US citizens”

But her parents and grandparents were Loyalists..

They settled in Ontario (Upper Canada) and had children...

Was their son William my 3rd great grandfather born in Ontario, Canada, an American or a Canadian ???

Eventhough his parents and grandparents were all born in the US ...

William married a woman who was born in America in 1815 of again generations of Americans (this time Rebel/Patriot ancestors)

They children were all born in Canada...

Was their son Guy my 2nd great grandfather an American or a Canadian ???

See how complicated it gets if ya let it ??

Could William or Guy have been president of the US ???

Eventhough William fought for the British in the War of 1812 ???


75 posted on 10/06/2012 7:40:22 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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