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To: bgill

I’m glad he’s not getting side-tracked with this. History may present the full birth story eventually, but it is not Ryan’s job to deal with. He needs to make the positive case for Romney/Ryan, and show how bad another Obama four years would be.

Go Ryan!


5 posted on 10/06/2012 12:19:36 PM PDT by married21 (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: married21

But think how much easier would it be just to disqualify someone who was never eligible for office. Why does that guy deserve to run again??


7 posted on 10/06/2012 12:23:53 PM PDT by edge919
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To: married21
Exactly! The truth will come out. People may be willing to lie and cover for a POTUS, but once he's just another ex-pres (and the pay-off checks stop coming) someone will sell the evidence. Right now, Ryan and Romney's job is to stay focused on jobs and the economy like a 20 million candle power spotlight.
11 posted on 10/06/2012 12:31:14 PM PDT by Casie
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To: married21

Ryan should say it’s not the proper time for him to deal with this right now, but that it will be dealt with.

Hawaii state registrar Alvin Onaka has already confirmed that the HI birth record for Obama is not legally valid so no birth facts can be certified as the way the birth actually happened. And he has confirmed that the White House image is NOT “a true and accurate representation of the original record on file”.

Though the claims actually entered on the WH BC image “match” the claims on the HDOH record, the claims are NOT “identical” - presumably because the WH record leaves blank one or more items that contain actual content in the HDOH record.

The 2 items that were left blank on the WH image are mother’s mailing address and evidence submitted for late and altered BC’s. And the HDOH has already indirectly confirmed that Obama amended his BC in late 2006 or January of 2007, and former OIP Director Paul Tsukiyama has indirectly confirmed that there are affidavits filed to support the claims on Obama’s BC - which would not be necessary if it was a routine Kapiolani birth that was reported, as the BC now claims.

The 1960-64 birth index has been proven to contain at least 2 name from non-valid BC’s, so Obama’s presence on that index says nothing about the legal validity of his record.

Fukino’s statement never verified that Obama WAS born in Hawaii - only that she had seen the vital records (plural) verifying that Obama was born in Hawaii. That is referring to the affidavits that Tsukiyama confirmed exist - affidavits “verify” (swear to) a claim. The word that Onaka used when referring to what the official record claims was “indicating”; he did not say that the birth certificate “verifies” a Honolulu birth.

So there is nothing that Hawaii officials have brought forth which refutes Onaka’s disclosures. Indeed, his disclosure fits very well with what Gov Abercrombie said to his friend Mike Evans.

The truth needs to get out there, but not by Ryan or Romney. Still, R&R should simply say that it will be dealt with in its proper time.


16 posted on 10/06/2012 12:49:44 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: married21

I agree. We can’t prove anything - so might as well accept the fact that he was born in Hawaii. Even if he wasn’t. This is a side issue - there are bigger fish to fry. Besides, its way too late to do anything about it except vote him out of office.


50 posted on 10/06/2012 3:36:51 PM PDT by Catsrus
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