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MrTeymour 5:29 PM on September 21, 2012

I am appauled at my fellow gun lovers that spew thier garbage before getting all the facts in a case. This lady had many other choices than to shoot this young man. The info I have , that came from a family member of the young man that was shot, reflects that the story written here is a bit mis-leading at best. No where did it mention that she actually missed with the first shot, but she did chase the young man away with that shot. Then she got out of her car and chased him and then shot and killed him. I have a hard time understanding why this would be considered self defense. In my mind, she committed murder or manslaughter at least. It is cases like this one that will destroy the ability of the law abiding citizen to protect ourselves.

1 posted on 09/22/2012 6:21:36 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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Huge thread on this here http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2934309/posts


2 posted on 09/22/2012 6:24:47 AM PDT by expat1000
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The article mentions eyewitnesses that seem to support the woman’s story. The man’s family wasn’t around to see anything that refuted the eye-witnesses’ account.


3 posted on 09/22/2012 6:34:01 AM PDT by mdmathis6 (We have grieved the Holy Spirit, with our Dark hearts and dark minds turned against God!)
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This is the latest comment to the article:

MrTeymour 5:29 PM on September 21, 2012

I am appauled at my fellow gun lovers that spew thier garbage before getting all the facts in a case. This lady had many other choices than to shoot this young man. The info I have , that came from a family member of the young man that was shot, reflects that the story written here is a bit mis-leading at best. No where did it mention that she actually missed with the first shot, but she did chase the young man away with that shot. Then she got out of her car and chased him and then shot and killed him. I have a hard time understanding why this would be considered self defense. In my mind, she committed murder or manslaughter at least. It is cases like this one that will destroy the ability of the law abiding citizen to protect ourselves.


4 posted on 09/22/2012 6:34:48 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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At 4:30 in the morning a man slewed his car sideways on the freeway entrance ramp causing me to hit my brakes. A massive man got out of this tiny car and stormed towards me screaming I had my truck’s bright lights on. (I did, but was not aware of it.) I had a gun in my hand, but as he got to my window I realized he wasn’t armed so I switched to pepper spray. I cracked the window down and apologized profusely. He seemed uncertain; perhaps because he was used to being a bully and I didn’t react the way he expected. I was excruciatingly polite. He said, “Well, okay then,” got in his car and left.

I always thought outrageous displays of anger were dangerous to both parties. I would have felt very badly shooting this young man. I probably would have tried backing up first, but getting into a chase is doubly stupid. I don’t believe I would have shot him unless he managed to reach me.

I saw this young man several days later in the Publix parking lot. He radiated dumb bully as only 250 pounds of 6’4” muscle can radiate. I will wager the deputies in the district new his name and address off the top of their heads.

In this story, it would be interesting to know the back story on both parties.


7 posted on 09/22/2012 6:43:03 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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Long thread at this link:
http://www.speroforum.com/a/ABTQXCNTFM32/73128-Black-woman-stands-her-ground-kills-white-man


10 posted on 09/22/2012 6:48:53 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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I came away with the opinions that she sucks at driving and following the rules of the road, likely caused the accident that lead to them stopping at the Shell station, then blew the guy away when he went to exchange insurance info with her.

She was in a public place in broad daylight, safely inside her locked car and had a weapon.

The guy had only had his driver's license and insurance card.

She sounds a lot like a murderer to me, but I'm not on the jury.

14 posted on 09/22/2012 7:24:21 AM PDT by GBA
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I don't know about anyone else but to me the testimony of a friend or relative of an accused *or* a victim in a case like this means nothing...even if the relative or friend in question is an eyewitness.I want testimony from people who have nothing to gain from lying,imagining or wishful thinking.I want videos...I want DNA...I want ballistics testing...I want cellphone records,etc,etc,etc.

Case in point...a few years ago there was a big murder case in Boston,a bigshot Harvard doctor accused of murdering his wife.During the trial a Boston TV station caught their three kids,two of whom were physicians themselves,leaving the court for the day.The reporter asked how they thought the trial was going."Very well,indeed" they answered in unison."The defense has made many,many excellent points".The reporter then said "but the prosecution has presented many powerful bits of evidence...your mother's DNA having been found where it shouldn't have been found,you father's DNA having been found where *it* shouldn't have been found..." (he badly cut his hand while stabbing her).Their response to that? In unison..."well,those were obviously lab errors".

I don't care what the family of friends of *either* person involved says here...or in any other similar case.

21 posted on 09/22/2012 8:51:13 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (If Obama's Reelected Imagine The Mess He'll Inherit!)
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For one to be justifiably in fear for their life, some type of action must be taken against them. He had no weapon.....so Was she even touched by the guy? I cannot see where she was.

Sounds like murder to me.


28 posted on 09/22/2012 10:54:19 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Read SCOTUS Castle Rock vs Gonzales before dialing 911!)
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We’re going to have to wait for the grand jury on this one.

According to a gun site, Jonathan Ables, the decedent, had priors: Arrested for pot possession in 2008 and 2011 and he was driving on a suspended license.

This presents a possible motive for road rage, if he was still on probation and driving on a suspended license. Were he involved in a traffic accident, he could be heading for jail.

“If you are convicted of knowingly driving with a suspended license, it is a Class C misdemeanor, punishable by a fine up to $500. It is a Class B misdemeanor – up to six months in a county jail – if you have been previously convicted, or previously had your license suspended for DWI.”

For typical marijuana possession, it is either a class B or class A misdemeanor.


55 posted on 09/22/2012 3:34:24 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (DIY Bumper Sticker: "THREE TIMES,/ DEMOCRATS/ REJECTED GOD")
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