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Home Defense: “If You Can’t Protect It, You Don’t Own It”
SHTF Plan ^ | 9/21/12 | Tess Pennington

Posted on 09/21/2012 2:31:56 PM PDT by Kartographer

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1 posted on 09/21/2012 2:31:59 PM PDT by Kartographer
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

Preppers’ PING!!


2 posted on 09/21/2012 2:33:32 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

That has been my motto.

“YOU ONLY OWN THAT WHICH YOU ARE ABLE AND WILLING TO PROTECT”

By whatever means... calling a cop, a lawyer, your hands, your guns.

To me it is the definition of “ownership”


3 posted on 09/21/2012 2:36:05 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: Kartographer

For handguns the writer seems to favor semiautomatics. I will generally agree - to a point. For things that go bump in the night I favor a double action revolver - mine is a .357 mag. The double action’s harder trigger pull give you some additonal time to be sure of your target and back off. Some semi’s are not as forgiving, except for those who can be set up for a double action first trigger pull. A revolver is simpler in operation - key if deaing with a middle of the night event. However, during awake periods, semi’s offer more rounds and good fire power.


4 posted on 09/21/2012 2:39:25 PM PDT by Godzilla (3/7/77)
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“...the SKS is chambered in a standard NATO round of 7.62mm x 39mm.”

NATO?


5 posted on 09/21/2012 2:41:45 PM PDT by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: aquila48

“YOU ONLY OWN THAT WHICH YOU ARE ABLE AND WILLING TO PROTECT”

Seems like that would mean that if you are not able and willing to protect it then you don’t own it and if I take it I’m not stealing it from you.

I don’t think I agree with that.


6 posted on 09/21/2012 2:45:11 PM PDT by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: Godzilla

I like my shotgun for things that go bump in the night. The sound of a shell getting racked in the dark is enough to bring many to Jesus!


7 posted on 09/21/2012 2:46:01 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

Yeah. Mac and I are pretty tight.


8 posted on 09/21/2012 2:47:43 PM PDT by ChocChipCookie
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I like my shotgun for things that go bump in the night. The sound of a shell getting racked in the dark is enough to bring many to Jesus!

Indeed! I have a 12 gauge as well that will be loaded based upon the situation. but I like my ruger SP101 too. I just feel more comfortable at this time with my .357.

9 posted on 09/21/2012 2:49:06 PM PDT by Godzilla (3/7/77)
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To: KrisKrinkle
I wonder if the Warsaw Pact nations would be suprised?

/johnny

10 posted on 09/21/2012 2:51:47 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: KrisKrinkle

The referred NATO round was the 7.62mm x 51mm, also known in the commercial world, as the Winchester .308.

The .30-06 has an effective range of 1000 yds., and is gloriously tied to the M1 Garand.

The .308 has an effective range of 500 yds., and is the round that fed that other great rifle, the M-14 Springfield.

The 7.62 x 39mm was NEVER a NATO round, but was employed by the Soviet Union and the Soviet Bloc nations. It is the weapon of terrorists the world over.

I refuse to own any and all models of any rifle that chambers that cartridge, because it is un-American, SHTF folks or not.

I still believe that, an American-design lever action rifle, is superior. Why? “Mr.AK 7.62 by 39” can have a spray and pray day all day long, but that day can be interrupted by “Mr. Guide Gun 45-70”, just once, to be a bad day.


11 posted on 09/21/2012 3:11:24 PM PDT by Terry L Smith
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like the old saying goes, you can take anything you want in this world... but are you strong enough to keep it?
12 posted on 09/21/2012 3:20:31 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Kartographer

A bit of practical philosophy on the subject:

“Put your effort into protecting what you value, because defending it is much harder.”

“Don’t invest too much in defending the expendable.”


13 posted on 09/21/2012 3:29:07 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (DIY Bumper Sticker: "THREE TIMES,/ DEMOCRATS/ REJECTED GOD")
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To: Godzilla
“The double action’s harder trigger pull give you some additional time to be sure of your target and back off.”

I have an older Colt 38 special revolver in my bedside table. It belonged to my husband. I have to cock the hammer to fire it because the trigger pull is so hard for me to pull.

I wanted a gun downstairs and went searching for one I could fire easily. The salesman recommended the Ruger LCR 38 special+P double-action revolver. I was concerned about the strength required to fire it. The one he showed me had a lock on it as required. He went to the safe somewhere and got one with no lock, came back and handed it to me under the counter so no one would see that as he wasn't supposed to do that. With the gun still down there, I pulled that double action trigger with no problem, it was easy.

You said, “harder trigger pull” and that doesn't apply to this Ruger. I can feel it going through the first stage but it smoothly goes on to the firing stage. Maybe this is different than other double actions? I read this gun is chosen by many in law enforcement as a backup weapon because it is light and easy to hide and has no outward hammer to get caught on something.

Thought I would pass this info. to you about this weapon.

14 posted on 09/21/2012 3:31:22 PM PDT by Marcella (Republican Conservatism is dead. PREPARE)
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To: KrisKrinkle

good point


15 posted on 09/21/2012 3:36:32 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Kartographer
The sound of a shell getting racked in the dark is enough to bring many to Jesus!

The way mine are loaded... a quiet 'click' as the safety gets moved to 'fire' is all anyone might hear. Small children and liberals are NOT allowed in my home.

/johnny

16 posted on 09/21/2012 3:42:11 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: GeronL

Kukri. Close range , effective, little or no noise.Shorter swing than a ball bat.


17 posted on 09/21/2012 3:43:08 PM PDT by glyptol
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To: Marcella
Ruger LCR 38 special+P

Have you fired this, yet?

I thought it was a pretty neat little gun. The local gun range had one I rented and fired at the range.

In the words of the guy behind the counter, it's got a 'snappy' recoil.

He was right. I only fired it with .38 Special and the recoil was pretty sharp. I wouldn't recommend these for the fairer sex, especially with +P rounds.

18 posted on 09/21/2012 3:57:09 PM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker (People should not be afraid of the government. Government should be afraid of the people)
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To: Kartographer
“If you can’t protect it, you don’t own it;”

I thought maybe this article was about protection rather than defending. For me, I don't want to have to get to the “defending” stage. I want the zombies to stay outside and go to an easier “mark”.

I've done all I can to protect and make it plain it is protected. Since I'm in a townhouse, both sides are stuck to other houses so it has no sides to attack. There is a front door and one window on the front. The door is fixed so it can't be kicked open and has an alarm that sounds if the door makes the slightest movement.

The window can't be raised - there are locks on it that can only be removed with an Allen wrench. A bar alarm can be seen with big red letters facing outward that says,”ALARM”. If that bar moves, the alarm sounds but I got it for the sign since the window can't be pushed up anyway.

There is another alarm that sounds if there is any vibration of the glass in the window. The window is behind extremely thick hedge and the window is fairly high off the ground. There is also a yard stake saying the house is protected with twenty four hour monitoring.

Other houses around me have no hedge to fight through and I'm sure their window and door isn't stacked up with alarms and warnings that can be seen.

Maybe I am naive about my level of protection working for me. If any alarms sound, I would be there with a gun if there was a breach but I'm trying to avoid that.

19 posted on 09/21/2012 4:06:58 PM PDT by Marcella (Republican Conservatism is dead. PREPARE)
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“Have you fired this, yet?”

Well, there is a story there. I bought this gun while I was having cataract eye surgery on both eyes. Someone asked me if I had gone to the gun range. I told that person that right now one eye doesn’t see like the other eye and I probably couldn’t see the target, much less hit it. Then the Texas heat set in so I’m waiting for cooler weather to do that. The old Colt 38 special has a monster kick and I’ve dealt with that and know how to absorb that kick so I don’t break my arms. Not using +P.


20 posted on 09/21/2012 4:25:33 PM PDT by Marcella (Republican Conservatism is dead. PREPARE)
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