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Posted on 09/17/2012 11:50:46 AM PDT by Renfield
“It works. Have you tried it?”
No, been too busy with astrology and in my Alchemy lab. I’ll get to the other medieval magic soon as i can though.
Oops, gotta run, my favorite medium is telling me that my dead uncle wants to chat.
It’s an electromagnetic response, and it’s well validated. All you have to do is look at the human body as an electromagnetic detection system, a magnifier if you will. That’s why blindfolding the dowser is bunk - how do you know that’s not part of it? Why should it be excluded? Who cares if the entire body and all the senses are magnified by the extension of the rods? Are seismographs bunk because the needles won’t move if you isolate the mechanism? Bah.
I’ll tell you why this is suppressed - because mainstream science doesn’t want to acknowledge sensitivities of the human body, or the limits of the technological applications of the scientific method. The idea is that in a thousand years, people will just be blobs of jello inside technological extrensions of the body that can be controlled by access to the “cloud” of the time. Realities of the abilities of the actual human body without technology - like dowsing, or meditation, or psi - get in the way of that. In fact, they sabotage it. After all, whether physical, mental, emotional, psychic or spiritual, you can’t have people thinking they can develop themselves through personal exploration and effort! That gets in the way of the developing collective!
“I’ll tell you why this is suppressed - because mainstream science doesn’t want to acknowledge sensitivities of the human body, or the limits of the technological applications of the scientific method. The idea is that in a thousand years, people will just be blobs of jello inside technological extrensions of the body that can be controlled by access to the “cloud” of the time. Realities of the abilities of the actual human body without technology - like dowsing, or meditation, or psi - get in the way of that. In fact, they sabotage it. After all, whether physical, mental, emotional, psychic or spiritual, you can’t have people thinking they can develop themselves through personal exploration and effort! That gets in the way of the developing collective!”
Dude, you got some pineapple express?
If you don’t believe in gifts beyond rational explanation, then you don’t believe in the salvation of God.
Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
Atheists, go your way.
All I can say is you must have never seen it done.
A pastor friend of mine was "run out of town" for interfering with water witching. He was pastoring a church someplace in New England where ground water is hard to locate and most of the local drillers used rods. Some of the fellows in the church were troubled by it, so they along with the pastor decided to "test the spirits." To accomplish this, they prayed together once a week that if the witching was the result of the action of unclean spirits that it would fail to work. Lo and behold, almost immediately the well drillers started having trouble finding water. Somehow they found out about the prayer group and then things got real ugly-fires, broken windows, gunshots at night, dead pets, you name it. The pastor ended up fleeing the state.
True story. And it happend in the 1970's, not the 1790's.
A little TOO happy, I think.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgiQPdPUNvs
Jack Nicholson, Easy Rider, the pot-induced Venutian conspiracy speech.
I use a dowser made of copper tubing to witch for Double Eagles.
The most I've ever found was a Garcia Y Vega cigar box full of them in my neighbor's abandoned cistern.
Haven't figured out what to do with them yet.
So in your world, (and welcome to FR) if someone rejects Oija boards, ESP, and water witching,, you are an athiest?
Do ecplises scare you?
Nicely put.
But one has to be wary of abilities beyond rational explanation that might have dark forces behind them.
I definitely would put the Ouija Board in that category. Divining, not so much, especially given the Bible passage quoted earlier.
Are you more knowledgable about locating underground lines than someone who does it professionally every day? If so, please state your credentials. We're all eager to hear them.
That’s an interesting story. I told above about my wife’s uncle witching for lost graves, and my wife’s father, learning the craft from his brother but never using it, taught it to me one day. Although the rods did move without my perceived intervention (we walked my front lawn and the rods crossed whenever I passed over a known water line), the whole thing did give me that ‘Ouija Board’ vibe, IOW I felt that I was dealing with something I really shouldn’t be dealing with. Tossed the rods (bent coat hangers) and never did it again.
That may be all fine and well, but can it explain map dowsing? Several times I witnessed a fellow seated in a comfortable chair in a downtown office use a roadmap and a pendulum to locate hidden foundations and culverts on a long-abandoned parcel fifty miles away.
I can think of a spiritual explanaton for map dowsing, but not a scientific one.
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